Newbie needing identification

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by StevesAntiqueConquest, Aug 4, 2022.

  1. Hello antiquers. Hoping to find resolution to this inquiry.
    I'm actually asking for my mom. She has a collection she purchased many years ago and would like to know more about it.
    I have photographed one of the pieces in the collection and uploaded for review.

    We would like to know if anyone knows the signature of the artist?

    Thanks for having me on the site! gravy 2.jpg gravy 1.jpg
     
  2. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

    I am wondering, has anyone ever checked to see if all of the pieces are signed by the same person or are there various signatures?
     
  3. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

  4. Laura: yes, according to my mom all 98 pieces in the collection are signed by the same artist. She also claims that each piece is from different regions of the globe.
    Just can't make out the name Illustrated.

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  5. Not really sure if the initial of the first name is a T. J. or F. ?
     
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  6. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

    Wow! How did she do that? Did she scour the internet shopping online to buy pieces signed by the same person from all over the world!?

    That display is beautiful.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. She is by no means an internet buff or a smart phone user to be honest. She and my father engaged in extensive travel through out the US in their day. I believe she acquired most from a seller as a collection ..... a few of the pieces were purchased separately. She is digging through paperwork to track more specific details on the bunch.

    What would be your first best guess as to the initial of the first name?
     
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  8. My mother would be disappointed if I forgot to say "Thank You" for the compliment. I agree, very impressive indeed, and I am not necessarily an art-see individual!

    Thank you
     
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  9. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

    I'm in the same boat you are, can't decide if the first initial is F J or T.
    Last name maybe Marmen, Maurnen... I tell you, there are people here who are good at deciphering handwriting and I'm not one of them. I'll wait for somebody else to have a stab at it.
     
  10. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I just showed a plate from the same maker Thomas Sevres in the Finds. I am reading that there were professional factory artists that did this work. This is from antiqueonline

    Thomas Sevres Bavaria - I Antique Online (ning.com)
    "The first porcelain factory in the town of Marktredwitz opened in the year 1872 and was known under the name of Porzellanfabrik Jaeger, Thomas & Co. until Fritz Thomas decided to quit in 1898 and open his own factory in 1903. Jaeger of course continued business as ’Porzellanfabrik Jaeger & Co.’ and both companies later became famous, each with their own range of products.” Porcelain Marks and More

    John Hogan discussed early china painting in his article, Early Obession with Floral Handpainting on Porcelain and Bone China, ”As a subject for artist of fine porcelains, flowers have always ranked high on the scale of porcelain and bone china painting and have been exonerated at many world exhibitions representing the quality work by the great artists of the many world famous factories who boasted their wares to the world. The sincere naivety and purity of the flower is what captures and has captivated artists for many centuries. ”

    Thomas Severes Bavaria Plate History on Grandma's Treasures Online"
     
  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The first initial is a J. Last name looks like Mamen, Mansen or Manson.
    The name doesn't influence the value though.
    Not that it matters to OPs lovely dish, but it says De Wolf, with an accidental dash.:oops: De Wolf is a Dutch name.
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    What a beautiful display!! AJ - What about Mauren?
     
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Could be.
    Mauren is also the name of a town in Liechtenstein.
     
  14. Wow, some very interesting info. Thanks KikoBlueEyes, Bakersgma and Any Jewerly.
    So, I each factory that produced the China had its own artist. Hmmmmm, very interesting. The info here will give something to google.

    When I see my mom again I'll take a few more pics of various items in the display.
    It seems odd at this point that the same artist would paint and sign china from different factories -

    Wish me luck.
    Thanks again!
     
  15. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I wish you luck. ;)
     
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  16. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    I agree it is a lovely display and purple is my favorite color.
    I think my grandparents had one piece of that pattern. It looks so familiar.
     
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  18. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Looks like J. Mauren to me.
    Curious to hear if all of the signatures look like signed by the same hand?
     
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  19. So far I'm coming up with zilch with on-line search. Should I be surprised by this?

    :rolleyes:
     
  20. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Try putting quotes around your most critical search terms. Otherwise, your search engine will follow general search algorithms. I don't know if this work, but this is what I do when I get pages of unfocused items. Also use the Image search tab on the top of Goggle, so you spend less time searching unnecessary narratives.
     
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