Inscribed Silver Handle for crystal dish

Discussion in 'Silver' started by JTR, Jul 18, 2022.

  1. JTR

    JTR Member

    Hello fellow antiquers, I have a new one for you! My mother in-law found this dish at local estate sale. Surprisingly the seller did not know much about it and neither do we. I will be getting better quality images this evening and will post them here asap. But this is what I have for now.

    If anyone could help in anyway IMG-20220718-WA0010.jpg IMG-20220718-WA0010.jpg IMG-20220718-WA0014.jpg , it would be greatly appreciated!

    All the best,
    Jonny
     

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  2. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

    Latvian silver marks, 875 is the silver fineness, the crowned head from 1922-1939.
    Not sure we have any Latvian speaking members for translation of the inscription.
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I was looking and that trying to figure out why I couldn't "crack" into it ... it's in one of the Baltic languages, you dimwit...:p:p:p The inscription says 1931, which is as far as I can get. Odds are it was engraved close to the date of manufacture.

    Wonder how it escaped the marauding and notoriously light-fingered soldiers of the era. Maybe it didn't, which is how it eventually fetched up at an estate sale?
     
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  4. JTR

    JTR Member

    Thank you very much @evelyb30! This gets me started!
     
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  5. JTR

    JTR Member

    Thank you very much for your input @nun
    That's a good point. I wish I knew more about the estate. Thank you for your time @anundverkaufen
     
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  6. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    And I Inverted, enlarged and tried to clean it up a bit WITHOUT touching anything pertinent (I HOPE) to see if it helps you or anyone else in getting it translated!! Click on it for the larger image!

    inverted and enlarged-gigapixel-lines-scale-2_00x.jpg
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    As far as I know the only Baltic person we have on Antiquers is Erik, but he is Estonian.
    Estonian is a Finno-Ugric language, part of the Urallic language family. Latvian is a Balto-Slavic language, part of the Indo-European language family. So there is no way they are mutually intelligible.

    I can't see the letters very well, but there could be a small chance that the inscription is in Russian, so I'll tag @Aznathalie .:)
    It may take some time for her to appear, because most members stay away because the certificate situation still isn't sorted, so we'll have to be patient.
     
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  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Hm. I'm thinking it's actually in Lithuanian? I've friends from there and some of those accents look very similar.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Latvian and Lithuanian are closely related, both Balto-Slavic languages.
     
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  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Both suitable for making my brain crazy, since it expects to be able to figure them out and obviously can't.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I can't even figure most of the letters out. I keep seeing words ending in -stra, which is how many Frisian surnames end, so Frisian is interfering with the few letters I do recognize.:wacky:
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It wants to make sense, but doesn't. If it was printed instead of engraved maybe I could hack something out, but handwriting in a language I don't know...oy.
     
  13. JTR

    JTR Member

    Thank you for taking the time to do this! @Aquitaine
     
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  14. Aznathalie

    Aznathalie Well-Known Member

    The inscription is not in Russian. Image of a Latvian girl in a national costume. As on the coin of 1931.

    I could only translate this
    War Minister Award Besleman Batempt. Get well Jason
     

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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Translation according to Lingva Translate:
    "The inscription is not in Russian. Image of a Latvian girl in national costume. Like on a 1931 coin.

    I could only translate this
    Award of the Minister of War Besleman Batempt. get well jason"


    Thanks @Aznathalie . Possible Russian was just a stab.
    So it could be something a wounded soldier received from the Minister of War?
     
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  16. Aznathalie

    Aznathalie Well-Known Member

    Screenshot_20220721-203404~2.png This "simple" Latvian Milda mark was in use 1922-1940 on silver and gold objects.
     
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  17. JTR

    JTR Member

    Thank you so much for doing this!
     
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