Featured 2 Antique prints found in thrift store today; help w/signatures? Plus 1 by Abel Truchel!

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Mar 3, 2022.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found these 2 prints today at my local thrift store (+ another antique print by an artist Abel Truchel - who when I googled his name I saw at least some of his work has been sold by Christie's!) - can anyone tell me the artist's names of the 2 prints I don't know?
    Also - the smaller one with the circle cut in the matting is a embossed portrait? with writing around it; I'm assuming that's the mark of the paper company but is the paper so good that it shares the audience's attention with the art itself - curious!
    It was a good day to be a picker!
    Any help would be appreciated!

    ART PRINT ANTIQUE LARGE THRIFT STORE FIND 1AA.JPG ART PRINT ANTIQUE LARGE THRIFT STORE FIND 2AA.JPG ART PRINT ANTIQUE LARGE THRIFT STORE FIND 3AA.JPG ART PRINT ANTIQUE SMALL THRIFT STORE FIND 1AA.JPG ART PRINT ANTIQUE SMALL THRIFT STORE FIND 2AA.JPG ART PRINT ANTIQUE SMALL THRIFT STORE FIND 3AA.JPG
    ART PRINT ANTIQUE SMALL THRIFT STORE FIND 5AA.JPG

    HERE IS THE PRINT BY ABEL TRUCHEL - WITH SOME KIND OF MARK ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER OF PLATE SIGNATURE

    ART PRINT ABEL TRUCHEL KIDS PLAYING 1AA.JPG ART PRINT ABEL TRUCHEL KIDS PLAYING 3AA.JPG ART PRINT ABEL TRUCHEL KIDS PLAYING 4AA.JPG
     
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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Normally I would expect that square to be a monogram for the artist. But this doesn't look like AT.

    Love the print!
     
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  3. David Broom

    David Broom Active Member

    I think the first one is Lucien Dasselborne. Lovely etching but very little interest in the market. I'd love that second one to be Georges Braque but....
     
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  4. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I thought the initials were maybe paper maker's Mark like the Truchel?
    David Broom - I thought it'd be a hard sale unless by a well known artist - and since they were $22.50 each I figured it was worth the chance.
    It was the 2nd one that looks like they're on a Batam? death march that I thought would be known/valuable.
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The Bataan death march took place in 1942. The print is dated 1915.
     
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  6. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Georges Bruyer on the one.
     
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  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I'm guessing the chop-like mark is a printer's mark. Monogram eV - editions (somebody)?
     
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  8. David Broom

    David Broom Active Member

    Spot on!
     
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  9. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    The second one, a woodcut, possibly WWI Turkish soldiers.
     
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  10. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Said they looked like - not that it was!
     
  11. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Which one is Bruyer - the march? (Thank you!)
     
  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I just wanted to be sure you knew when it actually happened, just in case.
     
  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thank you!
     
  14. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thank you!
     
  15. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    The soldiers is the Bruyer.

    Zouaves
     
  16. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Yeah I realized that when I looked at the signatures - I started my typing before engaging my brain!
     
  17. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I was looking for info to put the Abel Truchel litho on eBay and I found it - but they all have his name as Louis-Abel Truchet - not Truchel?
    Also how can I tell if mine is a original 1897 print? The size is same - approx 35" x 26" (art only not measuring frame) - is there any other way to be sure without taking it out of the frame & then having to pay Fast Frames or such to put it back correctly?
    Thanks
     
  18. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Louis-Abel Truchet and Abel Truchel are different people.

    Maybe not.

    Wikipedia has a biography for Louis-Abel Truchet, but not for Abel Truchel, and there are only 2 prints I can find signed Truchel - this and a dance hall scene.

    But I also don't find anyone saying they are the same.

    This print is quite different from Louis-Abel Truchet's other work online.
    The dance hall scene, also signed Truchel and with the same mark lower left, looks more like Truchet's work.

    It's very confusing.

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    Well... here's an entry that says Truchet and identifies the publisher as Eugène Verneau (eV).

    https://martinez-fleurot.com/art-no...au-jardin-du-luxembourg.html#googtrans(fr|en)

    But I'm not finding that mark on other Eugène Verneau publications.

    :banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
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  19. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Searching Louis Truchet Luxembourg brings it up
     
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    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

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