Abstract Surrealist Horses oil Painting Signed..?? Russian..??

The signature is not so blurry now. Thank you for the new photos. I still can't see the details of the name. I can't tell which letter looks Cyrillic to you. The first two letters look like Cm or C M. It could be the first initial is C and the first letter of the surname is M. Or, if the letters are Cyrillic, the first two letters would be equivalent to Sm or S M.

 

Given its influences, it should date to somewhere in the first two decades of the 20th century.

Debora

 

Big thanks..!! Very interesting post.

 

I agree with the possible date of 1940s, but I don't see any paint on the side of the canvas. None. Improbable for the painter to have painted this heavily to completely obfuscate the burlap on front and not have smeared or stained any fleck of paint onto the sides? There is only one photo of the side, is there paint overlapping the sides anywhere?

Now, I understand why it looked decoupaged to me: the painting looks extremely overly thick - is it painted upon a flat surface that is then mounted to the canvas? Can you please double check this detail?

Only in small areas does the paint brush strokes align with what has been painted. Everwhere else appears to have been painted over a (gessoed?) texture perhaps done at the outset with a pallet knife. I'm still not sure how there is no paint shown on the side edge. Are the stretcher bars extremely thin?

The canvas is a cheap burlap, rather than a linen cotton duck fabric. Is it a backing for the painting glued on top of it? I did read that you said "directly painted on this rough linen support" but please what does "flattened" mean?

The green faced "horse" looks more like a camel face. I cannot tell if the white thing is a camel saddle or if it is the back of the horse above that one?

 

Perhaps it is the back of the white horse and not a camel saddle.

 

Thanks for your response...Very interesting...We will try to find out the points you are mentioning with some fact answers asap...And let you know all...Big Merci very helpful..JB

 

I totally agree about the fact there doesn't seem to be paint on the sides. Can you take another photo of the sides? Also, regarding paint strokes - I'd almost say it looks like this was painted over something else and the brush strokes from that are making those bumpy lines.

 

Hi Beve...Here I am in BTZ today with my old Father 89th Birthday....He is still a very good painter and as well a connoisseurs ...He is as well very interested into giving some facts and expertise on this recently bought painting....We just spent few minutes into trying to respond to you and as well watching ourselves few facts.....Here attached few more photos....We do think here..That this painting might be a copy or follower of ...??? For sure painted within the 1940th period....Was it done during the German occupation in France...It might have been..??? Difficult to read the signature...But my father think that it has been created first as a copy or a follower of..??With some ideas and sketches at the time....By looking carefully on the support...It is an old type of mixture isorel and wood panel..On which has been stuck a rough hemp type of linen on which again has been applicated a layer not so fine and lean of Plaster or equivalent...Then the scene has been designed and painted....You can see all over Brushes strokes and different sizes of brush used....For sure the finished plaster dry base was not lean and smooth...But the painter who ever he was finished is idea and signed it....Hope one day to find out who painted it...??? Cross finger...We do like it and hope You do so....Best regards and always be in touch...JJB

 

Hi, for me the painting points out to Russian origin 40s-50s ( may be even later), where artists mostly made their own frames, stretch the canvases, primed them and so on, same goes for a canvas on board, which is what this looks. The canvas fabric quality looks low cost burlap, the board is widely mass manufactured fibreboard. The white paint on the side is the primer, the artist had to really use a lot of primer to make the canvas smooth , hence the texture of the painting. I cannot quite see the signature unfortunately.

 

I have enhanced white pixels on signature, but can only see C Me (--)лa and not sure on the more marks below, which look like 11 or II and roman numerals XX.

 

It looks like the XX is followed by one or two more letters that are not legible. Yes, they may be Roman numerals.

 

Fantastic..!!! Big Thanks..!!!

Do you think that II or 11 might means 1911..???

 

In my first look, I thought that those were just two lines of emphasis going through a curved decorative flourish line under the signature. I don't know what that is technically called. I will try to find an example. It is early morning here. I will look later, after I'm more awake. It is possible that the XX under that is part of a Roman numeral date.

 

Big MERCI..!!! Again..!!! Would be so interesting to know more on this "Flee Market Brocante Painting".....I had bought 3 paintings this day....2 more are not in a very good condition...But deserve some research after a good bath of W.Spirit and Terpantine....Hope you will have a look on them..Next time...Once again Big Thanks for your time and expertism Jenia...You are GENIAL..!!!! JB

 

In the U.S., there is a famous signature by John Hancock. He did draw a curved flourish under his signature on our Declaration of Independence. It looks a little different from the one on yours, but it does have two vertical lines in it. This is what I meant about the two lines.



Also, Jenia is a different person who helped you in this thread!