Can anyone help with this carved face mask?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Hi2022, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    Its 17cm diameter and 1150 gr . There is no makers mark but only a number
    Unfortunately It's damaged
    Any help abouth the age, origin and the damaged value is much appreciated
    20220105_135029_copy_1169x1098.jpg 20220105_135040_copy_1093x1036.jpg 20220105_135520_copy_1152x1152.jpg

    Greetings
     
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  2. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Not my area, but guessing it's Mary Magdalene.
     
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  3. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Are you sure it's carved? From the back it looks like molded plaster :)
     
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  4. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    No im not sure. But to mine unedicated eye the material looks marble also Its 1150gr. Plaster would weight less, right?
     
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  5. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    It could be made of some type of marble slurry. I don't see any marks on the back besides numbers which is most likely the mold or model number. It almost looks more like a lid than a plaque.
     
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  6. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    D
    i made a few closeup with mine Phone and perhaps youre rhigt. I dont see any chisle marks. The surface is to smooth. Perhapse sme slury .

    First a close-up of damaged area 20220105_173053-0_copy_432x960.jpg
    Second a close up of inner rim
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    a few close-up of the front 20220105_173242-0_copy_960x432.jpg 20220105_173647-0_copy_432x960.jpg 20220105_173800-0_copy_432x960.jpg 20220105_173806-0_copy_432x960.jpg
     
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  7. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    20220105_174855-0_copy_960x432.jpg And.....would those numbers be letters?
     
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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Definitely molded. If not plaster, maybe reconstituted marble.

    I considered several possibilities for the subject, but, all in all, although she is not usually depicted with her head covered in this manner, I think @sabre123 is correct that it's Mary Magdalen.
     
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  9. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Voting parian ware. Probably had a partner, not unlike this Christ piece: 7012ECB4-67D6-4499-95A2-F63F730410F4.jpeg
     
  10. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    perfect! I think you're rgiht.

    Parian ware! I've never heard of parian ware, so porcelain with feldspar! Am I wrong to think that the damaged area can be easily repaired?
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    You've got it. Parian ware had completely slipped my mind as a possibility.
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Van !!!!
    Where ya bin girl ??
    Happy New Year !!!!!!:kiss::kiss:
     
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  13. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    You should hold it the same standard as bone china— if you’d repair broken china yourself then your hand-eye coordination is where they need to be to satisfactorily rebuild/repair this, though your choice of filling affects value long-term. If you’d usually take china to a professional, at least you can be sure that Parian is covered by most reputable restorers as an industry standard :)
     
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  14. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Happy New Year Komo! I’ve been trying to get a job in Edinburgh and survive family during the holidays! Picked up a very rough little souvenir totem the other day (from somewhere like Alaska or Canada) and thought of you- not because of the roughness though, may I note! ;)
     
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  15. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Lovely to see you Bronwen! Hope the season is treating you well :)
     
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  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your good wishes. All the best to you & yours. Some years I get into a very festive mood; this was not one of those years. No particular reason. Maybe just the sameness of these covid-ridden days. May there be better times ahead for all of us. :)
     
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  17. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Van_Poperin !
    I'm not going to fix it myself I'm too clumsy for that:nailbiting:.

    I was just happy to read that a repairer can repair damaged part fairly easily as it is not real marble :):)

    what will be an appropriate price for this?:cyclops:

    would the damage affect the selling price considerably negatively?:cool:
     
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  18. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    I certainly hope better days are ahead, for all of us xx
     
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  19. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Get a feel for the price with some googling before repairing it, the repair won’t help your profit margin unless it’s a particularly valuable piece. Parian was created as an “affordable alternative”— not cheap per se, but not particularly collectable in a lot of cases.
     
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    PArian will feel a bit gritty on the teeth. That damaged area doesn't look like damaged Parian to me. Too shiny and not granular. Looks more like the reconstituted marble idea. Does it feel warm or cool if you hold it to your cheek?
     
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