WW2 Merit cross

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by Diogo, Nov 20, 2021.

  1. Diogo

    Diogo New Member

    Hello,
    I bought this WW2 Merit cross medal in a Swiss antique market. After buying it, I realised that there are several websites selling the same set, including paper, bag and ribbon and medal, which makes me think if this is a fake object. He explained me that he got it from Germany and that the whole set is original, but I find it odd that everything is in a perfect condition and that websites sell the same set (only difference is the small letters in the papperbag). Does anyone have idea if this is a real merit cross medal, and how I could identify its authenticity?
    Many thanks for your discussion.


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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

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    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  5. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    where exactly is this "antique market" ? name ?
    the problem with this Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse ohne Schwerter is the number of appr. 5 million that were given out and that they were awarded mostly to non-combatants and probably not worn by the civilians except the die-hards.
     
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  6. Diogo

    Diogo New Member

    This was a market in Fribourg, Switzerland called "Brocante de Fribourg". They sell a variety of stuff including old objects.

    Even though 5 millions were given, what puzzles me is the perfect condition of the whole set and finding it in other websites. Except the small letters in the bag (I guess that was the manufacturer, do you know?) everything is the same.
     
  7. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

  8. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    They are heavily counterfeited and there is no easy answer to telll the difference between real and fake.

    All I will say is yours looks to be in too good condition and not something that has been stored away for 80 years.
    The medals develop a patina when stored in their original packaging and the ribbons degrade.

    The award had two variants: with swords given to soldiers for exceptional service “not in direct connection with combat”, and without swords given to civilians for meritorious service in “furtherance of the war effort”
     
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  9. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    the same was given to soldiers, WaffenSS and civilians alike. even war criminals that chased jews in the Eastern Forests or KZ personell without being trheatened by enemy fire were give it.
     
  10. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    but the easiest would be to wear it at the next Queen's garden party. theey are all of German descent. and when Princess Michael of Kent is sighing "ooooh, dear Papa had one of these as well" then you know it's a real one....
     
  11. Frank_138

    Frank_138 Member

    This cross is an original.

    This war merit cross 2nd class without swords is probably one of the most produced and lowest value 3rd Reich medal.

    A few years ago they found a huge hoard of war merit crosses (all variants) at the old Deschler factory in Munich. All brand new and packed up but never delivered from the factory. The cross that started this thread is probably one of those NOS crosses from the Deschler hoard.



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  12. Diogo

    Diogo New Member

    Many thanks to you all for the great discussion. Ir was ver informative for me!
    I guess from my side topic can be closed :)
     
  13. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    thank you for the info.
    that's not the sole stuff that found its way in brandnew condition into Switzerland and even France in the post war years; some stuff started to show up in Paris flea-markets as well. for non-continentals the situation is hard to understand because they don't realize that the Germans hid away anything "doubtful" - e.g. Mercedes stars when unscrewed still had "Für Führer, Volk und Vaterland" printed in the bottom, even post-war installations to new cars are known - waited till the controls got easier and then sold where the money was . the only country that was very strict on certain items was France and when they caught people with SS stuff , especially the Totenkopf rings, they beat them up and kicked them into jail for while.
     
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