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  1. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

    01183A51-F4A2-4FD4-BFBF-A825925BD3B3.jpeg Hi! I’m a newbie here and I’m hoping to find some advice on cleaning and help in identifying a recent purchase. I recently purchased an antique fireplace summer cover. Based on the weight I’m guessing it is cast iron. I’m hoping to get some advice on the best way to gently remove the rust without damage. I like the aged patina but don’t want the excessive rust. It also looks like there is some Japanned copper detail that I want to try and preserve. I would also like any suggestions on how to research the approximate age and any other information I can find on this piece. I can post better photos if they will help! Thank you in advance for any advice you can provide!!
     
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  2. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Welcome to the Forum, @J McCraw

    I’ve moved your thread to Antique Discussions. Introduction Forum is just for saying Hi to the Group.

    Are there any Patent Numbers?
     
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  3. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Hi J McCraw!

    Welcome to Antiquers..............:cat:
     
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  4. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

    Thank you and I apologize for putting my question in the introduction, I wasn’t sure where to post it!

    I don’t remember seeing anything but I will take another look and let you know what kind of markings or numbers I find.
     
  5. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

    A3F56678-95CA-4163-AE25-5038E7F6EE01.jpeg 18B55ABA-D56D-47EE-860D-E28A5F53C974.jpeg 57D322E0-A560-424D-8A7A-E964C1ECFFCD.jpeg 19F25684-A263-4EDB-A049-1246155FF3E3.jpeg I don’t see any markings or numbers but I’m hoping once I can clean it a little and get the back panel off I will find something. These are pictures showing the back panel I want to remove and some of the front details that I want to make sure to preserve.
     
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  6. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

  7. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Best rust remover is naval jelly. You would need to be careful with any paint you want to preserve, as it will damage it with prolonged contact. Another option would be to use a rust converter that neutralizes rust and turns it black. It will not harm paint.
     
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  8. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

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  9. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

    Thank you! I keep seeing vinegar or baking soda on the internet but I wasn’t sure and didn’t want to do anything that might damage it!
     
  10. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    best I worked with privately was Hammerite, a German product that also exists in spray variations for different metals and in different colors.
     
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  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Hammerite is brilliant. They do rust converters and also seriously good paints.
     
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  12. David Kiehl

    David Kiehl Well-Known Member

    Hammerite is an AkzoNobel company. They make products that protect metal forever! Every aircraft flying has it on it somewhere
     
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  13. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    the ones for a/c are not available at normal stores. they are too aggressive and should only be used adequately protected in a well aired place. some learnt it the hard way - in the Airbus plant in Hamburg several painters dropped dead on the job. good friend and a/c maintenanance engineer I worked together with and who was present in Hamburg at the time still had heart problems 10 years after he stopped working there and had to change the job.

    quite funny how it was invented:
    https://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/ne...ntors-passion-for-paint-came-out-in-the-wash/

    AkzoNobel would have been Dutch but when it started being sold in normal outlets in the mid-1980s it was produced in Germany for the continental market by the then owner of the name and patents.
    AkzoNobel has its headquarters in Amsterdam due to the special conditions that were given by the government to help tax evasion; if it wasn't Dutch it would probably be Irish.:)
     
  14. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

    Is this something I will need to order online or is it sold in stores? I’m in the St Louis, MO area and it doesn’t look like it’s sold at Home Depot. Just curious how hard it’s going to be to find.

    Thanks for all of the info!! People have been great, dropping in to share bits of knowledge. I didn’t even know where to start and I’m so glad I found this site!!
     
  15. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    I'm near St. Louis in France...:cool:
    you can order it online.
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=hammerit...x=hammerite,aps,549&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_5_9
     
  16. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    From Home Depot: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Loctite-Naval-Jelly-16-fl-oz-Rust-Dissolver-6-Pack-553472/203009402 or https://www.homedepot.com/p/Krud-Kutter-1-Gal-Rustex-Rust-Converter-RX012/203397073

    If you want to order Hammerite in the US try Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=hammerite&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
     
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  17. J McCraw

    J McCraw New Member

    Thanks!!!! I’m hoping once I clean up some of the rust/dirt I can find some markings to help find out more information.
     
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    all_fakes Well-Known Member

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