Featured Help identify coloured prints (1850?)

Discussion in 'Art' started by watcha, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. watcha

    watcha New Member

    Hello everybody. I found these two in a goodwill shop. I love the drawing and colour. I just wonder if they are printed, not drawing (which i assume they are printed) and been coloured after? The frame is around 20x20 cm with a hard paper as a cover (please see pictures). I took them out from their frames. The drawing is on the thin paper which look pretty old. The back cover of one of the drawing has a pencil written the date 24 May 1850 and a name (i cannot figured out what). I would love to know more about them. I would be very appreciate if you help me with any information on these two prints. Thank you very much. Have a lovely day.

    Watcha

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Aren't those sweet? To my eye, everything look right for a 1851 date. Figures appear to be wearing some type of traditional costume. Perhaps someone can identify by the surrounding flowers. A French speaking country, of course.

    Debora
     
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  3. watcha

    watcha New Member

    Yes they are lovely. I’m thinking of fixing their frames a bit. Thank you so much Debora.
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    If they were mine, I wouldn't fiddle with them too much. There original state adds to their charm. JMHO.

    Debora
     
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  5. watcha

    watcha New Member

    That make sense. I love how it look. Just those nails in the back bother my eyes a bit. I will try to do it as minimum as possible. Thanks for your advice.
     
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  6. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    They look like they may be hand-colored engravings.
     
  7. watcha

    watcha New Member

    Thank you so much for your info. Look at their surface, they are smooth and does not seem like they have been engraved. But I don’t really have much knowledge about it.
     
  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    They well be hand done by someone with great talent and training. Lots of fine work there. (All that cross hatching!)

    Debora
     
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  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    "Engraving" refers to the metal plates (either copper or steel) that were used to produce the prints. The prints themselves will appear fairly smooth. But there may be what is called a "plate mark" around the border of the images, which is an impression left by the metal plate when it is pressed into the paper to print the image. If these are original prints from engraved plates, there should be a plate mark, unless the edges have been trimmed.
     
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  10. watcha

    watcha New Member

    I do not notice any plate mark on it. I think the paper has been trimmed to make it smaller. I Really appreciate your help. Thank you.
     
  11. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the blue flowers may be a type of clematis?
     
  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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