Please Id&date a brass Middle Eastern lot of objects

Hello everyone, I won at an auction house in Rome, this brass lot, it seems to me in Indian, Middle Eastern style. The lot was composed of the elements you see in the picture. I do not know if they are connected to each other in terms of origin and time, and I would like to be able to identify and date them.
If you wish, I can also send more details by making photos of each individual item.
I thank you as always for your time that you dedicate to me.

 

They all look North African, probably Morocco or Tunisia. Fairly recent.

 

which period circa will you attribuite, trying only to guess of course ?
I discover that one of them, on bottom, is marked, i send the related photo, maybe it could help more, thanks a lot for the support

@Ownedbybear @i need help @Any Jewelry

 

I'm with obb on the items with the glass inserts, my guess is also North African for those.
The one with the coloured enamel could be Kashmir, NW India. Could we see more of that one, also the candlestick and the bird?

 

Sure, i'll send them in few minutes thanks

 

wow great finding @i need help thanks !

 

@Any Jewelry here the related photos

 

Hi,
I am pretty sure that the peacock candlestick is Indian. I used to see a lot of them when I lived near "little India" in Iselin NJ.
greg

 

OP’s items are of the souvenir type often sold to tourists, as opposed to items that would be used by the people in the countries of origin. I agree with “recent.” They aren’t the types of items that antiques collectors would accumulate. U.S. citizens sometimes use such items to help decorate their homes and businesses.

 

Thanks to you all for your personal points of view.
About this mark

Do you know it's meaning ?
Thanks

 

My guess is that it is a mark used by one particular maker. If you pick any Of the hundreds of Middle-Eastern cities that have numerous small brass and copper-working shops, the mark could be from any shop in any Arabic-speaking place. I say Arabic because the mark looks a bit like Islamic calligraphy. It may be a calligraphic form of the shop-owner’s initial(s). Someone who reads Arabic and knows something about Islamic calligraphy may be able to interpret the symbol. When you get done, if you are lucky, you may discover that the shop is owned by Ali. Or Mohammad. Or Mustapha.

 

It has a Renaissance look as well as a slightly Asian look.
Both countries had (or have) a thriving replica and fakes industry, which is a problem when trying to attribute lower end items bought at an Italian auction.
The design could even have originated in Hungary (not a serious attribution) for all we know.
It looks like the peacock/phoenix candlestick is missing the actual candlecup.

Therein lies my problem with threads like these. I get tagged, but I know next to nothing of the souvenir industry, whether in Southern Europe, North Africa, or Asia. Sometimes there is a link with the genuine items, but not always.

It is a floral scroll, probably a maker's mark. It will be impossible to attribute it.
In North Africa and other possible places of origin there are often entire streets or neighbourhoods specialized in making brass objects of varying quality. Every workshop can have its own mark.

Gian, these are all pretty objects for around the house. Which is absolutely fine, they are not pretending to be anything else. Maker's marks, symbolism, or even origin, are not really of any importance with objects like these imo.

 

AJ
thanks a lot for your explanation and time

 

very interesting thanks a lot

 

The symbol is not an Arabic letter.

 

Here’s a calligraphic name “Ahmad” for example:



Show the symbol to someone who reads Arabic and see if they think it could be a calligraphic name.