Featured 3 old commemorative heavy medals

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Gianluca72, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    @i need help @Bronwen

    "I'm sorry. I thought you were here to learn. And if I owned the Caruso medal I would come to the very same conclusions without feeling that I had somehow made it worthless."
    i dont think so, easy to say inside this contest in public.

    i didnt realize about that reverted image, i'm not cheating anybody which could be my gain ? Come on. Of course i'm here lo learn but this does not mean to swallow all the words of others like a spunch.
    And then i'm here also to help, about numismatics for exmple.

    If you see all my previous messages in the various threads, you will notice that I have always thanked everyone, I have always said to learn important things from you all, I have always said that I admire your expertise and experience, I have always put better answers and I am always kindly with everyone.
    Now if for once I allow myself to oppose a thought, I do not think I have suddenly become a bad monster, but I believe that while learning, I have full power to have my own ideas and to express them in comparison to what I learn, constructively . Why do you offend yourself? Needless to say that you thought I was here to learn, it is obvious that I am here to learn and I always thank, I thank everyone, every time. But I also have a brain, otherwise I would never have been a numismatic for 35 years, and I think that I can express a divergent opinion.

    Also @Bronwen I would like to tell you something important : the auction house where I bought the medal of Caruso, is called Babuino Casa d'Aste, and is located in Rome.
    I send you two screenshots of a friend of mine from Monterotondo who sells on ebay; he is registered and can see quotes.
    As you can see Babuino Casa d'Aste is the same auction house that has already sold some works of Nino Caruso in the past, for fairly high prices, and they are not souvenirs.
    Now, my question is: why did an auction house sell Caruso at those prices, should it sell me a souvenir of Caruso?
    It seems clear to me that as you already know, the auction houses are connected to different art galleries and prefer specific authors, as the Art Gallery of Milan prefers Mario Maresca Serra, the auction house Pirone prefers the works of Antonio Ligabue , and the Babuino auction house prefers Caruso.
    What happens, that the works sold in the past by Caruso have been awarded for hundreds and thousands of euros, and then the auction house itself sells me a souvenir of Caruso, an author who is very well known to them, who they work on years ?
    You understand that according to the above, it remains difficult for me to believe your statements, which I consider rather partial, perhaps because I insisted and you have stubborn, it will also be my fault probably, that I speak in a language that is not mine , and maybe I express myself badly.
    All right, we avoid unnecessary discussions, I will ask directly those who still manage the website of Nino Caruso, as suggested by Debora, and then we will update.
    In any case, I thank you for your time and for your attention.

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure why we were asked to help determine the age of any of these. The first 2 are obvious enough to date within a year or two just by reading them; our time & attention were not really needed. And OP seems already to have received information (or made assumptions) concerning the third that he simply wants endorsed. Since he has other resources, he does not need us for that either. This seems more like it was meant to be a test than a valid request for assistance.
     
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  3. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I’m just very confused! :confused:
     
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  4. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    @Bronwen yes but you did not reply to my last message, and that one is foundamental.
    Easy to comment in third person, i'm here, you can reply directly .
    I'm not testing anybody, you're making bigger the problem to yourself
     
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  5. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    @i need help read my last long message and your confusion will end
     
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  6. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Yikes, I'm confused too, and have read all the messages at least twice. It seems there is an argument about a medal, with a face facing right, but I haven't seen any medal posted here with a face facing right. The third medal of yours does not have a face, and has been correctly identified (I think) as a commemorative medal of Caruso's work, but it is not in itself a work by Caruso. Do you think your third medal is a work by Caruso? If so, why? And what does this have to do with some other unseen medal of Mussolini with his face facing right? I would have assumed that this was a small purchase - am I wrong and did you pay a lot for these medals?
     
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  7. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Hello,
    You read twice ? But maybe you didnt read the last message with screenshots,
    in which is very clear that this is a medal made by Caruso.
    Yes maybe the subject is not Mussolini, ok, ma this is a medal made by Caruso.
    If you read the last message with the screenshots you wil understand the reason, and no need to read twice, you can understand even reading one time only ;-)
     
  8. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Arent the objects in the screenshot ceramic material and yours is metallic, or am I misunderstanding?
     
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  9. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Yes you are right, but author is Nino Caruso at the same.
    This auction house often sell Nino Caruso creations, and i bought one of them from the same auction house, Babuino Casa d'Aste, even if this is metallic.
    You also posted a Nino Caruso metallic creation, the first answer to me inside this thread, pag.1 :)
     
  10. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

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    This one is ceramic.
     
  11. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    ah yes, excuse me, it's fatigue, here is late, i was posting a solid silver .800 candy box, i'm so happy to learn that it's a solid silver, finally good news :)

    Yes, about Nino Caruso, he created also metallic items, you can find them next his page, plus i have sent an email to Babuino, asking if the medal that i bought from them really belong to the creations made from the artist .
     
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  12. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Ok I do not know of his work prior to this and have trouble searching as I said.
     
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  13. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    always thanks for your research and for your time
     
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