Featured Vintage Cruise Line Posters (30s, 40s) Evaluation help

Discussion in 'Art' started by Beto, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. Beto

    Beto New Member

    Greetings All,

    Found these posters in an Estate Sale of a gentlemen who was a collector. There were many reproductions but I found these to be of interest so I bought them. Hoping some of you can aid on their authenticity. What makes it complicated is that one was trim trimmed along the borders and backed on linen. The other was trimmed below. As a result their is no "printed in..." or number to identify. Im hoping with a few close up shots some of you may be able to see the printing method.

    Alberto
     

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  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I don't think your close ups are close enough to determine print process. At least not for me.
     
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  3. Beto

    Beto New Member

    I'll try to post closer views. Thanks for looking.
     
  4. Beto

    Beto New Member

    Just uploaded more close up photos:
     

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  5. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I have no idea what the trimming/mounting does to value, but that doesn't look like offset lithography to me.

    If they were mine, I'd have someone evaluate in hand. Where I used to live, there was an excellent auction house that did free evaluations one day a week. You might check your local area for something like that.
     
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  6. Beto

    Beto New Member


    I will look into that. Thank you for the suggestion
     
  7. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    And congrats if it's the real deal (and the trimming doesn't kill it)!
     
  8. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    How large are the posters? It doesn't look to me, either, like they're offset lithographs.

    I haven't dealt with posters, so not sure of the technology that's been used over the years. But going by your photos, I'd think possibly they're stone lithographs, silk screens, or there's another lithography process that was used in the first half of the 20th century that could mass produce high quality prints that don't have the dots you find in offset lithographs. I've never known the name of the process, but I've had many examples of both prints and postcards that were printed using it, most published in Switzerland. I don't know if they used it to produce posters, though.
     
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  9. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

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  10. Beto

    Beto New Member


    It measures aprox. 39X24
     
  11. Beto

    Beto New Member

    I have another poster I picked up in the same sale that shows similar printing method. This one is my favorite and hope its legitimate.
     

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  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    That one looks like it might not be trimmed, either, so bonus.
     
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  13. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I think the "backed on linen" would be a post-market thing.
     
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  14. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Agreed. More than likely was done to create a more stable support and/or to perform some type of repair(s).
     
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  15. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Backing with linen is done to stabilize old posters and maps.

    Posters like this were advertising, like movie posters, not meant to be used for long and not meant to be cherished and collected 60-80 years later. They were not printed on the best paper and were posted in cheap frames or hung by tacks, nails etc.

    Being cut down does effect value.

    These are very nice posters and you need to have them evaluated in case they are originals. They can be quite valuable, have an expert look at them in real life for you, not just photos on the internet!
     
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  16. Beto

    Beto New Member

    Thank you. I live in California. Any suggested place to take them? I've submitted them to Christies for evaluation but just sent photos.
     
  17. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Here in Massachusetts, I believe Skinner's Auction house still does free evals once a week......must be something like that near you!!!!! Check into it!!!! On Antiques Roadshow, there's Nicholas Lowry.........he's the one in the LOUD Checkered suits!!!! But he's GOOD!!! But he's also based in NY! He's also touring with the Roadshow this year.....
     
  18. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    This organization/website might help...
    https://www.ivpda.com/

    Also, googling these keywords brought up some CA art galleries that sell original posters and might be willing to help:

    original posters california art gallery
     
  19. Beto

    Beto New Member

    Thank you. Yes I also submitted an inquiry to IVPDA as well.
     
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