Another chipped Rookwood piece - and one with similar glaze - where from?

This is the second piece of chipped Rookwood I've pulled out of the same thrift store in a 4 day period. Someone wasn't kind to some nice pottery. Anyhow - I'm posting more to compare to the other piece that I found right next to it on the thrift store shelf - which has very similar glaze - but is unmarked other than an impressed number.

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The Rookwood butterfly vase - about 5" tall:



The other vase - about 8" tall:



Next to each other:



Wondering if anyone has any ideas on the second vase as to maker - the glaze color is almost identical to the Rookwood, but obviously it's not Rookwood.

Many thanks once again!

Aaron

 

It is difficult to read stamp under glaze. But it has the general characteristics of a Roycroft pottery stamp. The piece itself looks nothing like any Roycroft pottery I have seen.

 

Just a guess but Niloak had a glaze called Dawn II which is somewhat similar.
Don

 

Thanks Don. That glaze looks awful similar. Just might be it.

 

Thanks Quincy...I'll see if I can get a clearer view of the mark.

 

It just looks like numbers to me, maybe 364.

 

It is more likely numbers than Roycroft...because it has no similarities to Roycroft

 

Quick update - On the FB group for american pottery this(vase 2) was ID'd as Red Wing/Rumrill.