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Vocabulary in commercial laws is very important

 

Yes, I realised that there is a vocabulary that they can get away with.
I found one pair on EBay, sold well, so I also publish mine as well. I don't seem to get it right, I would like to buy some Victorian and Georgian pices, but I see I got it wrong in the past.
So, I am going to ask this question:
Is the below pendant Georgian? I want to buy it.
I would really appreciate your thoughts on this.
"A Georgian Turquoise and Silver Pearl Set Pendant in an unmarked high carat gold setting, 40mm drop"
Thank you.



@KSW
@Ownedbybear

 

@kyratango thank you so much, I can see the diffrence, mine are like a cast, ready made, where's the one in the photo has more detailed work in the metal and the way the stones are placed, the hook is also diffrent.
This is amazing.
So, if mine are a copy, any idea if they carry any value?
I am thinking at least the stones and the metal have some value.

 

Slightly off topic, and I'm absolutely not speaking for anyone else, but this is probably worth posting all the same: There are several reasons why you might (should) find that people are reluctant to comment publicly on an item that is currently up for sale or auction. The most obvious is that they don't want to feel responsible for other people's buying or selling decisions. Some boards effectively ban it.

Bear in mind, too, that there's always a possibility that someone giving you free advice on the internet may be involved in some way in the transaction you're considering. That's absolutely not aimed at anyone here, just a general reminder that even lovely parts of the internet (like Antiquers!) should never be regarded as 100% secure, especially if a post indicates that someone is ready to part with hundreds of pounds, euros or dollars.

People here are generally kinder than elsewhere on the internet and you might get a warning if you're about to make an obvious mistake, or a reply -- possibly private -- if anyone has especially good or bad experience with the seller or auction house (in this case it appears to be Piers Motley Auctions of Devon, England).

 

And if you want to keep it a bit more secret, ask on the General Discussion area, which is hidden.

 

Hi,
I don't know you, but people here have been very kind and it's up to me if I belive their opinion.
I ask here because people are honest... I have asked the auction house and they do not offer any details.
You certainly have something to do with the auction house as you know their name.
Your comments are outrageous, and I have reported you.
Beast of luck.
Simona

 

An internet search for the item you asked about ("Georgian Turquoise and Silver Pearl Set Pendant in an unmarked high carat gold setting") took me to the auction.

Nothing nefarious or outrageous going on here.

 

Sorry, but there are other green stones and a visual inspection by someone who is not a trained gemologist can not identify them. You will need to have them tested to know.

Another thing to consider, if Kyratango is right and these are modern gilt silver, emeralds are less likely.

 

This is obviously an antique cannetille (sometimes called filigree...) work
Back shows some soft soldering.
See there:
https://www.fetheray.com/products/antique-georgian-cannetille-amethyst-turquoise-pendant

And a very informative and educational site to peruse extensively for antique jewellery lovers
https://www.langantiques.com/university/georgian-jewelry-1714-1837/

 

Thanks for the thanks
Regarding the value, just to get the metal and green stones tested, the pearls, from their luster, are Chinese cultivated freshwater.
The design is appealing and this is a charming jewel, just not antique value nor interest for collectors.
Of course, now I searched some on EBay I can't find any, but I assure you there were a lot in different stones some times ago...

 

Yes, to the untrained eye they all look the same, until there is actually something to compare it with... and that makes a big difference.
As you probably gather, I am new on my jewllery journey, I am looking to invest some money but also learn in the same time. I just did not manage to get a proper Georgian pice so far.
Yesterday I learned that what makes something valuable and collectable is not how old it is the object, but how rare it is ( how many pices of the same thing were made) ... that is food for thought. Of course age adds value, now I am doing a bit of research on what sells well in auctions, and I tend to see a paten... coral, diamonds old cut, blue stone pices, black jet pices and high carat gold. I have to read about some of these.
Thank you

 

Look, I did the Google search, and did not get the auction house name in the first page.
By you saying "That's absolutely not aimed at anyone here, just a general reminder that even lovely parts of the internet (like Antiquers!) should never be regarded as 100% secure" does not make it right, it undermines people here, it undermines their opinion, and especially when you say that "my comment is NOT aimed at you" , in fact it means that it is exacly aimed at me, otherwise you would not say it.
I personally felt offended by your comments, I am a big girl, and I can take a decision after getting an opinion.
Lastly, I did not mention the name of the Auction house, nor the amout up for sale, so there is no conflict of interest on any side, if someone wants to comment on something, they will certainly do.
And by the way, the pendant was sold just after I was posting my comments, so it would not have made much difference with the timing.
I did not buy it, £460 plus Auction fees seems to much, hopefully you got it.

Let's try not to comment further back and forth, I really respect the people on this forum and don't want to give them something like that to read.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Simona

 

Another thing to keep in mind...yes things that affect value are age, rarity, maker, materials, workmanship, but most of all desirability. Something can be old as the hills, rare, by a good maker, made of gold or well made but if no one wants it, no one wants it.

 

that's brilliant Kyra !!!
great advice for identification !!!

 

That said, when it comes to jewelry if you like it and want to wear it, go for it. I know not much about Georgian jewelry, but the pendant was made to look a lot heavier than it was. That's a hallmark for "the old stuff".

 

Um, Simona, I did the same search and it took me to exactly that auction. Top result.

https://www.barnebys.co.uk/auctions...silver-pearl-set-pendant-in-an-unm-4bVCVkeWB2

I think perhaps there's a language gap here. Hamburger was trying to help, in my reading of this. The internet is deeply insecure: I spent my working life doing this stuff.

And my comment after was meant to point up that if you search on something that's been posted here, it is almost instantly available by the Google bot crawlers. That's why the General Discussion space is very useful if you want to stay below the radar.

 

That’s how I read it too. It’s very easy to misunderstand the meaning of the written word. Easily done.

 

Absoutely!

 

Thanks. It's reassuring to have confirmation that my intention was clear to some, but of course this is a reminder to me to post and phrase more carefully. I promise to try, especially before diving into an ongoing thread with a contribution that could be seen as off topic.

I believed I was posting a timely warning, not hijacking someone else's thread. Like Simona, I have quickly come to respect and trust the regulars here. Antiquers really is an unusually kind corner of the web and I'm sorry for causing offence.

It was strange to be accused, above, of precisely what I had tried to warn against. For the record: I was not involved, in any way, in the sale or purchase of the item asked about in post 22 and have never had any contact with the auction house.

 

Your statements didn't imply anything but an honest attempt to be helpful, which is the point of these forums, after all. If one is going to ask for assistance on a public forum, one must be aware of all types of potential security issues. Gather the information. Weigh it carefully. Make your own decision. That's really the gist of what Hamburger was trying to say. Nothing inflammatory about it.