Featured Carved Bone Goddess Statue

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Josh, Apr 26, 2018.

  1. Josh

    Josh Well-Known Member

    Carved bone statue of a goddess, but I cannot figure out which one. She has 3 faces and 18 arms. Measures 15" tall and is 9" wide.


    DSCF5592 - Copy.JPG DSCF5593 - Copy.JPG DSCF5594 - Copy.JPG DSCF5597 - Copy.JPG DSCF5598 - Copy.JPG DSCF5599 - Copy.JPG DSCF5600 - Copy.JPG DSCF5602 - Copy.JPG DSCF5603 - Copy.JPG DSCF5604 - Copy.JPG
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Durga?
     
    judy and Christmasjoy like this.
  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ohhhh she's handy !!!
     
    Duprey, kyratango and Aquitaine like this.
  4. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Are you sure thats not resin?
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Is she all one piece? Or are the arms, etc., separate pieces attached to the main body? My initial impression is also that she is resin, meant to look like ivory.
     
    Any Jewelry and judy like this.
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Kali, the destroyer of evil.

    It seems to me that there would be considerable technical difficulty casting something like that with the undercuts and piercings, unless the suggestion is that it is hand carved from resin.
    In which case, regardless of material, it would be something of a tour de force of carving skill.
     
    kyratango and judy like this.
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I went with Durga rather than Kali because she looks more pacific, not holding a severed head or anything that way. The Chinese do some amazing things with resin. See this Kwan Yin.

    This spot where it appears to be chipped doesn't look like natural material:

    upload_2018-4-27_7-8-22.png

    This is instructive, even without reading it all: https://www.realorrepro.com/article/Ivory-genuine-fake--confusing
     
    judy likes this.
  8. Duprey

    Duprey Member

    It's gorgeous!
     
    kyratango likes this.
  9. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    Just an uneducated guess- perhaps she is Ushnishavijaya ? She always has three faces, but the 8 hand number isn't right. Arms seem to come on go on some of the other Hindu dieties, so I don't know if that is a hard and fast rule. https://www.himalayanart.org/items/663
     
    Bronwen and judy like this.
  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  11. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    Stunning if real, heat up a pin so it's red hot and then see if it goes in to the figure on the bottom, if it doesn't go in and leaves a very small black mark then it's ivory.
     
  12. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi 808 raver,
    Please do NOT suggest people use the hot pin test for ivory. If it is not ivory, it could flash and burn causing all kinds of problems. Any type of cellulose could cause tragic endings. More pieces of collectable stuff have been ruined by the hot needle test. The same is true of filing into pieces to see if they are silver or plated.
    greg
     
    808 raver and Any Jewelry like this.
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I must have been asleep all this time, I certainly slept through all this.:shame:

    It is Guanyin, but very close to the original Avalokiteshvara she was based on. Guanyin is a fusion of the Buddhist Bodhisattva of mercy Avalokiteshvara (male), and a pre-Buddhist Chinese Goddess. A Bodhisattva is an aspect of the Buddha.
    Avalokiteshvara is called "the one with a thousand arms and a thousand eyes", to reach out to all those in need. The many faces serve to see and hear all suffering.
    Although this Guanyin is based on Avalokiteshvara, according to Chinese tradition Guanyin was given "a thousand arms" by the celestial Buddha Amithaba to save people from Samsara, the cycle of rebirth. She is the guardian of sailors.

    I have never seen the Hindu Goddess Kali/Durga (two sides of the same Goddess) portrayed in a Chinese style and with Chinese characters. There are few Hindus in China, and as far as I know, their religious objects were made in the traditional Hindu style and with Sanskrit script.

    It looks like resin to me as well. Besides, objects that look like bone or ivory but have that grey 'stuff', are generally resin.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2018
    Bronwen and judy like this.
  14. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

     
  15. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    My Dad was an Optician, he and my Brother often used to soften glasses frames made of cellulose over an open flame, admittedly if they were left too long they would combust but using a hot pin in my experience just doesn't have the thermal energy to ignite cellulose. I have used the hot pin test many times to identify ivory without causing any more damage than a tiny black dot, if this is done in a place that can't be seen then personally I don't see the problem. I would never recommend filing silver but if they are going to get silver tested then it will have to be damaged in some way to check.
     
  16. Josh

    Josh Well-Known Member

    Wow, lots of responses, sorry for the delay in getting back to the thread. I do not believe that this is ivory, but I still think it may be bone.

    The grey areas are actually just dirt, I am adding photos of the areas I have started to clean, and there is quite a difference. This lady is going to get a nice long soak in the tub, as there are just so many small areas. This came out of the house of a hoarder, who was quite dirty n also a smoker. I hate to say it but this piece is just plain filthy.

    I have also included some close-up photos of the base. perhaps that will give someone with more knowledge a better idea if it is really bone or not. There are also 2 blue marks on the inside of the base I did not notice before.



    DSCF5629.JPG DSCF5630.JPG DSCF5631.JPG DSCF5632.JPG DSCF5633.JPG DSCF5634.JPG DSCF5635.JPG DSCF5636.JPG DSCF5637.JPG DSCF5638.JPG
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2018
    Any Jewelry likes this.
  17. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Looking at the bottom the areas of what looks like "fringe" are areas where the plastic is reveled from the casting. It is a beautiful statue but cast resin is my best answer as the same from other lookers. If bone it would have multiple tiny "dots" of where blood vessels would be seen interring and exiting the bone.
    greg
     
    Any Jewelry and Bronwen like this.
  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The one thing it does not look like is bone. I really do recommend the article at the link in post #7.
     
    Any Jewelry likes this.
  19. Josh

    Josh Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the information. Just wishful thinking on my part about it being bone I guess.
     
    judy and Any Jewelry like this.
  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Happens to all of us from time to time. :happy:
     
    808 raver and Any Jewelry like this.
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: Carved Bone
Forum Title Date
Antique Discussion Carved Bone or Ivory 1-Case Inro with Rabbits: Chinese? Jun 13, 2024
Antique Discussion Carved bone(?) or ivory(?) top container/trinket box? Mar 17, 2023
Antique Discussion Carved wood/bone elephant Sep 2, 2021
Antique Discussion Carved Vanitas Skull - Whale Bone?? Jun 13, 2021
Antique Discussion Carved Egg Cup, Bone or Ivory, Date? Nov 5, 2020

Share This Page