Featured "OHIO" BUTTON? TIE TACK" MILITARY OR POLITICAL?

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  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found this at a estate sale today. Is it a button or a tie tack? Cuff link?
    Is it political - like for a Ohio delegate? Or military from a civil war soldier from Ohio? (Is it old enough to be from civil war?)
    Those are the two things that came to mind while pondering this piece.
    Thanks for any help!
    AA EBAY NEW A COLLECTIBLE EBAY OHIO BUTTON TIE TACK 1AA.jpg AA EBAY NEW A COLLECTIBLE EBAY OHIO BUTTON TIE TACK 2AA.jpg AA EBAY NEW A COLLECTIBLE EBAY OHIO BUTTON TIE TACK 3AA.jpg AA EBAY NEW A COLLECTIBLE EBAY OHIO BUTTON TIE TACK 4AA.jpg
     
  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Did you try Google Imaging? I guess I can’t do that on my fArt smoNe
    ;)
     
  3. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I can't either - every time I drag & drop a photo nothing that comes out looks anything like it!
     
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  4. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    You shouldn’t have to drag and drop.
    Just right click on it, I think, and you should have an option come up for Google Image.
    I probably could do that on my computer. Someone should come along but if not I’ll try in the morning but remind me.
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Image search.
    Unfortunately the world is full of round metal things with words on them.

    My sense is that it is part of a uniform, but not military. Might be a stud for a collar or lapel. Made to stay securely put but to be removable when the garment is cleaned. Ohio Terminal Railway?
     
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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    If that's a shortline piece, it might be real money. One of my biggest scores on line was a little lapel button from a shortline down on the Texas Louisiana border. About three bidders all went nuts. I don't recognize it, but if wasn't interstate that's not unlikely.
     
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    In a list of railroads that serve the state of Ohio, there are a number with 'Ohio' in the name, but they were like Baltimore & Ohio, abbreviated B&O. The only one listed for which the abbreviation was OHIO was this Ohio Terminal Railway. It appears to be a very short line.
     
  8. buyingtime777

    buyingtime777 Well-Known Member

    My first thought was Ohio State University possibly but I really don't know.
     
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  9. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found this design in military collar disks going back to civil war. Would railroad personal wear those? Could it be used elsewhere - like a tie tack or something?
    The Ohio railroad IS a shortline - 13 miles! But they took over that section of track in 2013 - I think/hope this is older!
    I appreciate the help all
    PS - This was one of a basket of zip lock baggies with different older things in them for $3 each. I thought this piece was old because of the things in the other bags; like the old photograph of a really unusual looking man I also got from there (attached)
    PSS - The frame has the man's bio on the back as well as a sticker that says 'Logan McCormick Art Dealer' - is is a real photograph?

    AA EBAY NEW A ART PHOTOGRAPH OLD MAN 1800s 1AA.jpg AA EBAY NEW A ART PHOTOGRAPH OLD MAN 1800s 1AAA.jpg AA EBAY NEW A ART PHOTOGRAPH OLD MAN 1800s 2AA.jpg AA EBAY NEW A ART PHOTOGRAPH OLD MAN 1800s 3AA.jpg
     
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  10. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I checked this morning on GI too and all I got was yours as shown here. :(
    Is there a RR museum in Ohio? Surely there is something even if it's scale hobbyists.
     
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Mumford, Jr., died in 1825, so would not have been photographed. It looks more like a drawing. McCormick's likely to have also been a picture framer who reframed it. Mumford was about 36 at the start of the Revolutionary War, so good chance he was involved in some way in that. American families are very proud of being able to trace their forebears back to then, probably once a treasured heirloom.

    The possibility that the OHIO stud is RR connected is seeming a bit thin. I don't know anything about Civil War uniforms, but wonder if maybe they had something this way to ID the state the soldier was from?
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    If what is in the frame appears to be a photo, it's possible that someone took a photo of the drawing.
     
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  13. LIbraryLady

    LIbraryLady Well-Known Member

    Wait a cotton picking minute... now I know what I need to figure out. How to take a picture on phone and use that to search google image. I've been missing out.

    Thanks guys.
     
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  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'm probably imagining things, but that looks like a gelatin print photo of a really old watercolor.
     
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  15. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I’m not sure it can be done on a phone. I can’t seem to do that.
     
  16. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Ok... I copied the painting, went to Google Images and pasted it.
    So that is a way. :)
     
  17. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    No luck in the painting nor the pin this way.
    -
    Perhaps the pin is CW related but for reunion(s).
     
  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    If you put 'mumford' into the search box, you will get a mention of John, Jr., through his marriage to Lucretia Christophers. The same info appears in another book by the same author:
    Magna Charta Barons, 1915. Baronial Order of Runnemede

    A Connecticut historical society/museum might be interested in it.
     
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  19. LIbraryLady

    LIbraryLady Well-Known Member

    Perhaps I misunderstood earlier comments from you and journeymag.

    Good, because my brain is already almost full.
     
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  20. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Ha!!!!
    Well it’s one of those things that are much easier than the explanation reveals :)
     
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