Featured 1600s antique Jewish tribal wedding ring judaica

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by david emmerson, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. david emmerson

    david emmerson New Member

    Can anyone helps me find out more about this ring?
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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  3. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    That thing is beautiful. Just stunning in its form and simplicity. I love it. I wonder what the three stems represent.

    You gonna sell it??????????

    It looks tiny, in ring-size...
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The one on eBay looks to me like the 3 'stems' are poppy heads, not Jewish stars (assuming that's why people are describing it as Jewish tribal). Following the feeling, Googled 'poppies dagestan'. Photos worthy of an illustrated volume of Wizard of Oz. Member's ring for Dagestani Poppy Growers Association?
     
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  5. david emmerson

    david emmerson New Member

    Size 10 and I purchased for a present that's why I am trying to find out about it, so, sorry not selling it.
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'm sure it's my size.:happy:
    In the Arab world, which is not too far from Dagestan, daisy-like flowers are a Jewish symbol. The flowers can have anywhere between four petals and the multitude of petals we know from a real daisy.
    Here is a Yemeni Jewish necklace with a daisy design that looks more like a poppy:
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    I notice the ebay seller has managed to move Dagestan to Central Asia, no mean feat.;)
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Too big for me.:(
    By the way, what makes you think it is 1600s?
     
  8. david emmerson

    david emmerson New Member

    The seller listed as such. Not very reliable source but, I purchased as a present and not really concerned about the truthfulness. I would like to know as much as possible about the the history and correct dating.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I collect ethnic jewellery, and have Dagestani pieces as well. Some of them are floating around somewhere on this forum, if you search for Dagestan or Caucasus you will find them.
    I am no expert, but with the knowledge I have, I can say the ring is 19th century at least, possibly early 19th.
    Ethnic silver is often recycled. Silver from old rings is used to make new rings. Great-great-great-etc grandma's rings will almost never survive.
    The big question is, when did this ring come to the West, or end up with a Dagestani collector. If it is known/documented to have been in a collection in the 17th or 18th century, we can be pretty sure it dates from the 1600s. Or you can have the metal dated. Otherwise 19th century will be the safest assumption.
    The ring has value, even more so because Dagestan is in Russia, and 'Russian silver' is a magic term these days. So is Judaica.
     
  10. david emmerson

    david emmerson New Member

    Thank you so much, i appreciate the effort :)
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Pleasure, of course.
     
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