Is this Qin dyansty porcelain?

guys any idea about this??? Its design?

 

Beautiful charger, Mariyan.
@Asian Fever , what do you think? I should know the four prong marks on the base, but can't remember right now, and my eyes are too tired to search the books.

 

QIN Dynasty? Or QING Dynasty? There's a GIGANTIC difference between the two.

The QIN Dynasty was the FIRST solid Chinese dynasty. It's the QIN that gives CHI-NA, its name.

The QING Dynasty was the LAST dynasty, which lasted from 1644 and died out in 1911. Also called the Manchu Dynasty. It was this dynasty that gave us all those old-world stereotypes about China. You know, the long fingernails, the opium-smoking, the curly braided pigtails, the pointed feet, etc...

 

I think we can safely say Mariyan meant Qing.

 

Gotta be sure, y'know!!

 

If it is Qin, it would be the find of the century, and radically change the history of porcelain making.

 

The Bottom spots is not a marking. It is the stacking spots for multiple plates when producing these plates in kiln.

I cannot find exact picture of the way getting these spots, but I find a similar one.

 

Prongs are thin spikes which support the plates so they don't touch. That is why the raised spots are called prong marks, the marks left by prongs when stacking them for firing.
Different regions and periods have a different number and positioning of the prongs. Not all porcelain has them, but it can be one of the signs to help determine age and region.
I'll see if I have the energy to search in the books tomorrow.

 

Hi,
Here in the US we call them sagers and the marks they leave a sager marks. They were used to keep the pieces being fired from sticking to the floor of the kiln and to separate the individual pieces. I have had several Japanese low planters with the sagar marks inside the pieces. I do not know if they were fired upside down or stacked.
greg

 

Sorry guys it is supposed to be Qing? apologies.. hehe any suggestion about the time period. Or the design. it depicts a dragon and some roosters right? Im really sorry my knowledge regarding porcelain is very poor

 

It is a phoenix design. The phoenix in Chinese art often looks like an ambitious pheasant. The phoenix stands for the female aspect and the empress. The dragon for male aspect and the emperor. I don't see a dragon on this charger.

 

Ohh there is a phoenix in the rim of the plate. But what's the design in the middle of the plate? Besides was phoenix there in the Qing era porcelain? @Any Jewelry

 

You're right, it is a dragon. Didn't see that before, the photo is a bit dark, and the phoenixes are much bigger. Yes, the phoenix also appears on Qing porclain.

 

Yes that's what i thought! By the way @Any Jewelry is it late or early qing?

 

We don't know for certain if it is Qing.

 

By the way how to differentiate ming and qing porcelain? One of my friends said it could be late ming too. But i think it's too new to be ming. What do you people think