Featured is this powder pot just junk?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Phaik Hooi, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    dear all

    i assume this is a powder pot, though it looks rather large volume-wise with a relatively small puff thingy. 3 3/4" tall 3 1/4" diameter. the interior glass chamber is 2" deep with a 2" diameter. there is no mark anywhere. it is not lightweight and the black patches around is mostly dirt that can be gently scratched off.

    regards
    phaik hooi

    powder pot top.png powder pot exploded1.png powder pot w back of mirror.png powder pot casing1.png
     
  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Not junk, but not silver either.
    Trinket box? Vanity box?
    I believe the style is called Dutch, but made in the US. Being Dutch I don't know a thing about this particular style, but it fascinates me.:wideyed::confused::)
     
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  3. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Definitely not junk.When do you think it was made?
     
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  4. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    The glass liner is more than an inch smaller in diameter? Doesn't look like that in the picture, but if so would indicate it's not original. What is the orange piece that's inside? With the mirror in the lid (the flange to hold it in can be reattached), it probably was intended as a powder box.

    These 'Dutch Reproduction' pieces usually date to right around the 1920s, give or take a few years earlier or later. If the down puff is in good condition, has value in its own right...

    ~Cheryl
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I didn't notice the puff, of course it is for powder.:banghead:
     
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  6. Tom Mackay

    Tom Mackay Well-Known Member

    Hmm, those figures look familiar. Sort of. 20170518_121715.jpg
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The men on the powder pot wear Zeeland hats for Protestants:
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    Zeeland is in the southwest of The Netherlands. Those hats were also worn by Jews btw, they usually followed Protestant regional styles.
     
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  8. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    definitely not silver but it is non-magnetic. i am thinking may be pot metal but pot metals tend to be dull and greyish, so silver plated?? no EPNS or EP anywhere :(
     
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  9. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    i personally have no idea when it was made. if they belonged to my grandmother, i would say early to mid 20th :happy:
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    EPNS is electro-plated nickel silver, EP is electro-plated. It can still be plated, just with a different technique, or not marked as such.
     
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  11. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    my apologies. measurement of lid diameter is 3 1/4" and the metal pot diameter is 3". the inner diameter of the inner glass pot is just under 2 3/4" (not 2" :facepalm:)
    the orange piece is the back of the mirror. i thought it unusual for a mirror to have such a bright orange backing. i have been trying to figure out what it may be and i think it may be some kind of protective silica layer ... but no luck with finding anything similar for dates and maker :(
     
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  12. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    thinking plating because the cover is silvery on the outside but yellowy on the inside. doesn't seem to show any rusting or greening or .... i have been reading :happy::D;)
     
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  13. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I think the puff is added. That looks like an early 1900s puff, with either ivory or celluloid.

    The pot metal jar looks like the things Japan was putting out in the 1950s-60s copies of the Dutch silver.
     
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  14. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Can we see a picture of the base of the jar?
    Does it have texture or is it smooth?
     
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  15. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    here's a picture of the bottom. looks polished? also yellowy tinge, not silvery. sorry no daylight picture, it's 1:32AM where i am :)

    powder pot bottom.png
     
  16. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    actually this is one of a pair. the other also has the same tiny puff :wacky: googled pictures of powder puff pots and all of them have puff that fill the pot, no?

    i will go google dutch silver now ...... see if i can find something similar.
     
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  17. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    The orange piece I was asking about is inside the frame in two of your pictures. Is it something you put in, or was it already there? It looks odd, is it some kind of plastic?

    The orange on the back of the mirror is just a coating, like paint, used to protect the silvering...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  18. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    yep orange/pink thing inside is some kind of plastic sheet. does that narrow it down to 1950s-60s?
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :bookworm::bookworm:Phaik, you're a true antiquer!:joyful:
     
  20. Abegweit

    Abegweit Active Member

    Reminds me of Hans Jensen – Denmark - I have hand / pocket mirror
     
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