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  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    This is a Trench Art copy of a South African WWI army badge featuring a Springbok that has been turned into a sweetheart brooch.
    The language is in English and Dutch Afrikaans.

    Another piece of sterling silver hallmark dated from 1896 has been attached to the back to hold in place what I thought at first was celluloid but now after shining a UV light through it I think may be Amber.



    This is the brooch.


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    This is an official infantry badge.


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  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Looks like tortoise
     
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  3. buyingtime777

    buyingtime777 Well-Known Member

    Tortoise was what I was thinking too.
     
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  4. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I concur with the tortoiseshell.
    greg
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe horn......I mean, look what's on the front !
     
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  6. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Good thinking Terry.
    The commonwealth SA Troops were fighting the Hun in German East Africa where I suppose Tortoises were abundant.
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the critter is a Springbok......I still vote horn.....
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Looks like horn to me too.
     
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  9. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    They are both keratin, as is baleen, and only a larger piece or DNA test would positively identify which it is. But I don't think it's tree sap.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I also think it is horn. When you hold tortoiseshell up to the light, you can see the patterns are layered and complex.
    Both can darken with age. A bit of oil can bring out the colour and prevent further cracking.

    The 'eendracht maakt macht' text is Netherlands Dutch. The literal translation in Afrikaans would be 'eendrag maak mag', but I believe they generally use the term 'eenheid maak krag'. Using the original Dutch term in this case is probably a legacy of VOC rule.
     
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  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Afrikaans is a daughter language of Dutch and—unlike Netherlands Dutch, Belgian Dutch and Surinamese Dutch—a separate standard language rather than a national variety.
    Afrikaans has adopted words from other languages, including Portuguese, the Bantu languages, Malay, German.
    Similar legends were struck on SA Kruger coinage.

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  12. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The Springbok is the national animal of South Africa, it doesn`t mean the item is made from horn.
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, you're right.
    To us Dutch, Afrikaans sounds very simplified, I think you can see that in the difference between the Afrikaans motto and the Dutch motto. The shilling shows a transitional Afrikaans, it still has the end t's on eendragt maakt magt.
    We can understand each other, and although we do not have a language union with Afrikaans, Afrikaander poetry is read here as well.

    Interesting that you make the distinction of Surinam Dutch. To us that is 'proper' Dutch, often spoken very beautifully. The only difference is the accent, there is no dialect like in Dutch and Belgian regions.
    The official language of Surinam (government, etc) is Dutch, but Sranan Tongo, a creole language, is the pre-dominant first language. There are other languages as well.
    Many Sranan words are now part of Dutch street language, just like Moroccan Berber words.
     
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  14. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I don`t know if I have mentioned this before but in the north of England around the Newcastle area they speak with an accent called Geordie.
    My Dads from up there.

    When they say "Brown Cow" it sounds exactly like the Dutch "Bruine Koe" :D:D
     
  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The same with Scots from the Scottish Lowlands, across the border from Northumberland.
    Frisian, a Dutch related language in the north of The Netherlands, has a lot of words that sound English.
    To us in the south of The Netherlands, Hollands often sounds a bit like English. For instance, they have an r which sounds vaguely like the English r, whereas ours sounds more like the French r. Hollands is spoken in two provinces on the west coast.
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    You're right......but I've got one of these on my wall.....& have handled tortoise shell for over 40 years.......& it doesn't look like that to me. !

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  17. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I suppose these are made from Maple Syrup, I mean look what`s on the front ! :rolleyes::D:D:D

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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Have you tried licking them ????
    Numy num num num !!!!! :playful::playful::playful::hungry::hungry::hungry:
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    and what about these............made from turtles ???????

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  20. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

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    These are proper turtles.

    The manufacture was fueled by maple syrup and poutine!
     
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