Featured Grandma Moses ~ I won't get my hopes up

Last one for the evening. Would just like to know if there's a possibility that I have something real. Image size is 22.5" x 17.5". thank you all

 

Is yours a print or a painting? Here's the original "The Old Oaken Bucket" that Christie's sold in 2008.

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/paintings/anna-mary-robertson-moses-the-old-5154284-details.aspx

Debora

 

Print

 

Decorative value. Frame and mat looks 1980s.

Debora

 

That's where I have difficulty. How can I tell?

 

Well, if you didn't place the winning bid at Christie's, chances are it's a print. But seriously... Can you see brush strokes? If not, a print. Gallery label will give you a clue too. I can't read but you can use information to do internet search and see what type of artwork they deal in. You can also remove from frame and examine more closely. Grandma Moses widely reproduced so likely minimal (decorative) value anyway.

Debora

 

The one shown by Christie's is different than the one shown by Sotheby's here in this link.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2012/american-art-n08911/lot.50.html
And the one I'm looking at is different than them both. This is masonite. Would they print on masonite? And would I see 'dots' [if a print]?
There are no dots.

 

I am thinking this was a series as the Sotheby listing specifies that it is "The Old Oaken Bucket The 5th"

 

I noticed that too buyingtime. There is also a winter example of the same title.
But I haven't seen one like the one I have here. I'm not well versed at all when it comes to artwork, even after reading for days, but I did read that a print could be easily identified by the 'dots'. And here there are no dots.

 

What type of magnification are you using to determine there are no dots/printing pattern? Also as previously mentioned a real oil painting would have brush strokes. From the pictures you posted so far it doesn't look to have the texture of an actual oil painting to me.

 

That's why I'm scratching my head with this aaroncab, I thought the same. I used the same magnifier I used with some other actual prints. There are no dots. There is, what 'appears' to be brush strokes, but I expected to see texture. I find no example of close-up pictures of these works to compare texture. I looked up "oil on masonite" and I'm not convinced there would be a texture to the paint.
...it's making me coo-coo...so I have to go back to my earlier question: Would they 'print' on masonite?

 

How do you know it's masonite?

 

There's a small hole in the paper on the back of the piece. It appears to me, to be masonite.
What else could it be? It's not canvas, it's board. I'm factoring in the Art Studio displayed on the label. Rudolf Lesch. It's numbered 2580. And I will research that info next.

 

From the reflection on your images, it kind of looks like a print pressed "into" the board, but that's just my guess. I'd LOVE for someone here to hit the JACKPOT!!!!

 

Grandma Moses was so widely reproduced and so widely faked that an unlikely place for it to happen. Same goes for Dalí, Miró, Picasso...

Debora

 

Not all prints have dots... and they are still prints. Some prints also have textures incorporated to look like paint has been applied.

Graphics Atlas has good ways to identify all types of prints. They even show magnification! http://www.graphicsatlas.org/identification/ -- This doesn't appear to be a photograph, so you would look in the other sections. It needs to be out of the frame. And if you still can't tell if it's a painting or not, it might be a painting... take it to an appraiser or an auction house if you can.

 

Thanks Figtree!
Someone suggested on a different piece, that I take a look at the edges of the board to see if there are paint marks or drips present, as opposed to clean cut. I'm a little apprehensive about messing with it, so I may call someone afterall.
I had an Auction house representative here to help me out with some of this stuff, I gave her a list of items but showed no interest in actually inspecting anything when she was here.
I think she was intimidated by the volume of it all.

 

Here is a link to another Moses print on Masonite with the same framers tag on the back. https://www.justanswer.com/antiques/8w6xb-value-grandma-moses-trees-masonite.html

 

I found this info on the company named on the back: "Rudolf Lesch Fine Arts mass-produced framed decorative art pieces based on either famous images or stock images from the 1940’s – 1970’s".

 

Well, a bit of early research here would have saved everyone time and effort.

Debora