Featured Old porcelain plates. From what country?

Hello!
First , I'll show you why I got them ...


my first stapled piece! I only picked up four out of the available 12 or so. Didn't want the one stapled piece to be lonely ... plus the ones I left behind had almost all of their gold dots and trim worn off.

Now to figure out where they were made and how old they might be.

They are, I guess, salad or dessert plates ... about 8½" (21.5 cm) in diameter.

close up of design


Pics of backs showing imperfections in glaze


Thanks for looking and for any info you can provide.

edited to add: I forgot to mention that the only other example I was able to find with nearly the same "dot design" was from Wales, but it also had beautiful flowers painted where these are very plain.

I'll see if I can locate the link to the flowered one again. Didn't bookmark it, of course

 

what nice elegant plates. I guess I couldn't hold back and bought all 12, but that's me
if I look at the decor I would date it at the end of the 19th early 20th century, but the foot rim and the baking errors tell me that they are a lot older than I think. maybe 18th century, porcelain paris, or a german or even an english manufacturer.

 

i think i found it. not 18th century but early 19th and not porcelain paris but Nantgarw .
congratulations! very nice find. i would go back for the other plates. but that's me

https://www.lotsearch.net/lot/three-similar-nantgarw-plates-circa-1818-20-41050091?page=6

 

Thanks, Rec!
That's the word (Nantgarw), that came up when I searched last night ... but did I think to jot it down??? Noooooooo Could I remember it??? Nooooooo Do I think I could pronounce it???? Absolutely Nooooooooo.

How do you pronounce that?

Nice examples you found Nice prices, too.

Using Nantgarw as a search term, I was once again able to find the plate I saw last night (from Pinterest ... copied from a site that times out before it loads on my computer nantgarwandswanseaporcelain.co.uk)


also found this photo

from here https://jacharitabletrust.com/nantgarw-porcelain/

Wonder why I can't find any examples without the floral center design?

 

The others had almost no gold details left on them at all .... but maybe I should go back and pick up one of the two sugar bowls they had ... maybe both.

 

HOO! RUN!

Nantagrw is hen's teeth rare. Grab them. There's a wonderful museum project, who are remaking designs, I'd contact them. http://nantgarwchinaworksmuseum.co.uk/

"Nant-garr-wu" sort of.

 

Maybe all I would

 

Thank you!

OK. I'm going. I'll show them tonight (if they're still there for me to get)

 

You all aren't suggesting that I should even get the plates where the gold is all but a memory are you??? Sure. they're only 50 cents ea. ... but the condition!?!!

 

For 50c definitely !!!!

 

[/QUOTE] Wonder why I can't find any examples without the floral center design?[/QUOTE]
......Having already been lucratively engaged to supply undecorated pieces for subsequent decoration and re-sale by several of the foremost London-based producers, Billingsley and Walker were then approached by John Rose of the Coalport works – who proposed a more complete and effective solution to what he perceived as the threat from an upstart competitor by offering a sufficiently attractive package to secure the exclusive services of the sought-after craftsmen..... source:
https://scottishantiques.com/Swansea-Nantgarw-porcelain

 

definitefly

 

Nantgarw such a rare factory. I've not found any in thirty plus years.

 

I would like to have one for that price

 

You could sell them in 3 lots that way

So anyone not able to afford the better ones, might still be interested in the worn ones

 

FIFTY CENTS? Get down there NOW.

 

Oh, those are really pretty! And I love that every time I log on here I learn something different.

Now I'm dying to know if you snagged the lot, quirkygirl!

 

First ... don't scold. I left three ugly ones back at the store. Really, they're terrible. but as I didn't wait for all but the first reply before heading out, I think maybe I'm underestimating just how special these are. The thrift is close by and picking up the last three will be a good excuse to drop by again.

Here's the quick photos (I'm antsy to go pour out the contents of the three jewelry jars I bought somewhere else ... and I think I see ivory and silver tucked way in the middle)

The sugar bowls (I think that's what they are) are huge 7" by 4" (18 by 10 cm)
I know they were larger way back when ... but, wow ... they're like little personal soup tureens.



Gotta go dig through some jewels now .....

 

So when you said sugar bowls you meant soupa sugar bowls

Congrats !!

 

I think they are charming!