Native or Inuit Gauntlets Gloves?

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  1. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I'm looking for some information/help on this pair of gloves.
    I believe this is seal skin from the spots, with the beading I'm not sure if they would be Native. These have been worn at one time, came from a house where they have been hanging for the last 40 years, no other history on them. They are 12" x 7" across the top.
    The red beads are a deeper red than what shows in the photos.
    Any information appreciated.
    thanks for looking
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like seal......possibly inuit....
    but the arrows....""">>>///?????????
    & the inuit likes to make and wear mitts...over gloves.
     
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  3. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks Komokwa! Yes, I wondered about the arrows but I really don't know.
    Would these be considered gauntlets rather than gloves?
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    yes they would.....and I'm wondering if they maybe aren't deer.....or some other hoofy critter............
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Inuit seal is usually much greyer.....i got boots....table mats...a vintage 60's ski pouch and belt......i should know seal......but i'm baked..! :wacky:
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Seal is shiny, and as Komo says, much greyer.
     
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  7. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    You need to contact a museum specializing in indigenous items. Even if they don't have this particular tribe represented, they usually know others. Search online.
     
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  8. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the replies folks:)
    It is very coarse like deer but I've not seen any with spots.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Young roebucks have spots, but I think they are a European species.
     
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  10. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    There are many species of seal/sea lion...these look a lot like some seal items I have....or at least, I was told they were seal; what do I know......
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I just pulled out my pouch..& mat....... it's seal.
    & while I can't verify Tlingit mfg.....that are the only NWC beaders..traditionally..speaking.
     
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  12. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    One of my reputedly sealskin items is a large pillow-like frog, with beading spelling out "Alaska" and some decorative elements, as I recall. I think my wife has some reputedly Inuit gauntlets with beading; but when bought at auction, any tribal attribution is somewhat suspect.
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    fer sure...but only a few tribes ever dealt with seal.......so pointing a finger is ...at least a path forward to the truth.
    I mean to say....the Sioux never had sealskin, & the Haida never even saw a buffalo !
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Moms seal belt and pouch...worn for skiing in the 60's..
    Inuit seal place mat.....circa..60's..early 70's...Holman Island... IMG_2412.JPG IMG_2413.JPG IMG_2414.JPG IMG_2415.JPG IMG_2416.JPG

    Not all seals are grey...& some have spots...
     
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  15. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I think the spots may indicate harbor seals, but that is a guess.
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    or could the the spotted seal....
    The spotted seal, also known as the larga seal or largha seal, is a member of the family Phocidae, and is considered a "true seal". It inhabits ice floes and waters of the north Pacific Ocean and adjacent seas.

    The National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) has denied protection for spotted seal populations in Alaskan waters.
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  17. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the replies folks:) I'm still working on these, will update with any other information I get.
    I forgot I had this Ookpik made of sealskin, same coarseness as the gloves - so I think they are sealskin. DSC01254.jpg DSC01255.jpg
     
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  18. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I couldn't resist. Frankie Rodgers, from Mission BC, playing his "Ookpik Waltz."
    (Sometimes recorded as "a traditional Canadian waltz."
    Near and dear to my heart; my wife and I have recorded the tune, and hid little Ookpiks in various places on our CD and graphics.
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    That's a real sweety pie !!!
    I love ookpics......& pics of Oookpiks.......Oooooooo la la !!
     
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  20. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that all_fakes, I haven't heard that is a very long time:) I don't remember it being called Ookpik Waltz.
    lol Komokwa
     
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