Featured 18th century champagne flutes?

The glasses are each 7 inches tall with a slight height difference. At least one of them is crooked.
One has a polished base, the other seems to have a thinner base with no or less obvious polishing mark. The one with the polished base has a darker color to it and two large air bubbles (pictured below).
Both of them have horizontal lines.

There are some small scratches here and there when felt with a fingernail. The parts of the bases that touch the table surface also have small scratches or slight grittiness. I honestly don't know what the level of wear generally is when it comes to pre-victorian glasses. I suppose there would've been a tablecloth, so any wear would come about during storage and transportation.




This site has a glass that looks the same. Just scroll down till you notice the picture with the three different glasses:
http://www.warrenandwignall.co.uk/tag/retro/

Elsewhere I've seen similar glasses labelled as early 19th century as well 18th. What do you think is the age of my two glasses?

 

If period they would be for ale, not champers.

 

This style was made for Williamsburg to sell as souvenirs, not to say these were, but it's a possibility. Blenko was one of the manufacturers.

 

Old glass is greyish I think, I can't tell from the pictures here. I'm no expert, but that's what I look for on the shelves in the Charity Shops.

 

I've read the shades of clear (antique) glass range from white to pink to grey to green -ish. These two glasses seem to be more pigmented that most newer glass.

 

I'm just not seeing age on these glasses, at least not 300 years worth.

 

I didn't think 300 years either. My thought was early or mid 19th century until I noticed some similar ones online said to be 18th century.

 

I would call these "sham bottom pilsner" glasses, but the term is often misused in the States. Libby has a line of "Sham Bottom" glasses that are nothing like these - they have the protective bulge such as an English pub pint does.

 

Frankly they remind me of recent bar ware last 50 years.

 

Look what I just found:

https://www.bukowskis.com/en/lots/920824-seven-mid-19th-century-champagne-glasses

Was I right about these being champagne glasses after all?? And the mid-19th century period?

 

Hi Bluemoon,
If you look closely at the bottom of the stem were it meets the bottom you can see where they were blown separately and joined. Yours were molded as one piece. I looked in my 1970 Williamsburg Collection catalogue and the ones shown match yours. Cherryhill I think ID'd them as handmade by Blenko. I think they were made by them until the 1990s when a Dutch firm started to made them by hand for Williamsburg.
greg

 

The Williamsburg, etc glass is directly based on an 18th century design (or is a later vintage of it so it looks) so that alone probably isn't enough to determine the age. Did someone manufacture this design in the late 19th century?

I don't know enough about the principles of glass stem and foot construction of the 18th century or after but why would glasses from the 70's, or from the 90's have such ancient look to them with air bubbles and vertical lines, crookedness and all? Isn't commercial glass from the second half of the 20th century notoriously uniformal and "perfect" in quality? There is absolutely nothing about these glasses that would meet any glass company's quality standards in that era, or so it seems. Is there a chance the seam between the stem and the base was blended so well it's not visible?

If you look at the other glasses in the Bukowskis ad, not only one closeup, the stem and foot area has this pile of glass, exactly the way one of my glasses has. The other not. Maybe one of my glasses is 18th century, hence the color difference?

I have a few other miscellaneous glasses, very typical 18th century designs. Since you brought up the matter of the base and the stem being made separately, I would be thankful if someone could clarify whether these two were made one way or the other?



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