Victoria Austria Red/Orange Crown

Hope I'm not wasting anyone's time as this little fruit/dessert dish is not in great shape. I've found the pattern is VTOVTO189 and unavailable at Replacements.com. My question is the mark - I've found the same mark on a reference site and on the back of various Victoria Austria porcelain items online. But it's almost always green and mine is an orangey-red. I did find one item online with the same mark in red but no explanation of its meaning. The green one is for 1904-1918 and I'm wondering what date the red one is for or any other info. Thanks so much.

 

Mired - you should be aware that the "pattern name/number" you found at Replacements is only their own assigned code and does not come from the manufacturer. It's only good for locating pieces there and not on any other site.

Afraid I am no help for the mark.

 

This is from Röntgen's book of marks. It looks like "Austria" may be what determines the date range.

 

Altrohlau and other parts of the Karlsbad surroundings belonged to Austria earlier than 1904.

 

Google translator isn't very good. Is there any indication that the crown Victoria Austria mark was used before 1904?

 

Thx - I did not know that. Nothing is simple.

 

http://www.sammler.com/porzellanmar...=&symbol_27=&symbol_28=&symbol_29=&symbol_30=

 

Thanks Fid - I hadn't found that site. But again, they just have the mark in green and not red-orange like mine. Any idea what the significance of different color is?

 

may have to do with the everchanging ownership over the years.
Lazarus & Rosenfeld were "investment bankers" and resold it after a while.
and it ended with these stamps....

 

The info on the Sammler site is a little confusing. It show the Austria mark but says it's Czechoslovakia. Could be right date wise, hard to know for sure.

This is what Röntgen's book of Marks on German, Bohemian and Austrian Porcelain 1710 to the Present has for the different marks used though my book is from 1981 so there certainly could be more recent info. It doesn't address the color of the Crown Austria mark but uses "Austria" for the date range.

 

Thanks all! Looks like it's a genuine antique most likely.