18th C. export porcelain plates?

I bought two of these plates, $1 each at a flea market.

Nothing about these says to me they couldn't be late 18th century Chinese export porcelain. What do you think?

The diameter of the plate is approximately a little less than 10 inches.

I noticed these have the same "clouded" areas in the glaze, which I've seen on numerous similar export porcelain from the 18th century. I don't know what that's called or if it's wear from use but see for yourself in the last picture below.

 

Yes, 18th c export dished, I would think from later in the Qianlong reign.

 

They're relatively common here, and given how early, not that valuable. They are, despite that, delightful.

 

Those wire hangers with springs are supposed to be disasters waiting to happen.

 

I love to buy beautiful, old things for small amounts of money. The decorative value alone is worth it.

 

My understanding is that as long as you don't move the hanger or the plate around much, there's no damage (except if the plate hanger is too tight)

 

I have damaged pieces of 17th and 18th C Japnese export ware which I paid pennies for and love.

On the wire hanger thing, there are some better ways. I'd be inlined to cut that off - they do stress the plate and can leave marks.

 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Yongz...ite-Porcelain-Plate-China-Qing-/142067170855?

This is a soup plate, but the same pattern.

 

The metal things are a disaster waiting to happen. They don't always do damage, but when they do it's not pretty.

 

I got a similar couple recently for a pittance too. Think they are lovely, all that hand painting.

 

It's sometimes interesting to compare two or more of the same hand painted plates, if they are the same pattern and happened to be painted by different people. It's really noticeable how differently they perceived the image and how the results look completely different, like handwriting, while still being the same pattern. The pictures below show three of the same details on two different plates.

 

Hi,
I use those metal hangers, ONLY I overstretch the springs to where they are loose to move around but hold the plate. I also slip plastic tubing over the hooks that hold the plate. That way no pressure on the rim of the object.
greg

 

It works with small plates but try to hang a 5lbs platter on the wall.

 

Hi,
I have a 12 lb plaster cast "Last Supper" hanging on my dining room wall. I have plates 16" and several platters also. Oh course when low flying experimental planes from Lakehurst shake the hell out of my house I quake also. Years ago (1980) a Stealth bomber at 100 ft went down the beach and scared the hell out of everyone.
greg

 

Agree, they are most likely late Qing export dish. Same dish sold for 600 on EBTH.

https://www.ebth.com/items/4958921-pair-of-antique-chinese-octagonal-dishes