Hallmark help!

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Jonvintage85, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. Jonvintage85

    Jonvintage85 New Member

    I have a sterling silver bulldog. His head comes off. Not sure why, but that's where the hallmark is. I'm usually very good with hallmarks, but this one has me stumped! Can I enlist a little assistance?

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  2. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Hi JonV.....I can't help, but just acknowledging your post to welcome you.

    Those in the know will be along to offer their help.
     
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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  4. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    The Lion Passant is for England.

    The Lion Rampant is for Scotland, and I believe, a variety of European countries.
     
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  5. Jonvintage85

    Jonvintage85 New Member

    Here's the full item; IMAG7100.jpg

    He's unusual :)

    The lion passant looks more like a rampant lion which points more to Edinburgh. But that 'n' in a shield is the most puzzling part
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is a lion rampant, not passant. That lion is rampant in Scotland (not just Edinburgh) and The Netherlands;). Possibly creating havoc elsewhere, but not that I know of.
    I don't see the Edinburgh castle mark.
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    No other Scottish town marks either.
     
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  7. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    My guess is that this little fellow is a snuffbox. Or possibly a desktop vesta case.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Does it have anything to strike a match on?
     
  9. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Well we haven't seen every side of it yet, so possibly. At any rate, the surface itself looks pretty textured as it is.
     
  10. Jonvintage85

    Jonvintage85 New Member

    there's no obvious area to strike a match on it. Definitely not a trinket box (as I originally presumed) because the legs are hollow so there's a never ending possibility of loosing all sorts of things down those legs lol

    I guess it's origin and era is going to be a mystery then? A little disappointing, but makes this piece even more appealing ;)
     
  11. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I'm sure something like this would've had a specific purpose. The head wouldn't come off for no reason.
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  13. Sandra

    Sandra Well-Known Member

     
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  14. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Can't be an inkwell. The acidic nature of inks in those days would've eaten through the silver in no time at all.
     
  15. Jonvintage85

    Jonvintage85 New Member

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  16. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    You're welcome, Jon.
     
  17. Jonvintage85

    Jonvintage85 New Member

    He was made by Ludwig Neresheimer & Co. and imported by
    Berthold Mueller.

    I have also found that he is a tea caddy as these were made regularly by Ludwig Neresheimer in a range of different animals :)
     
  18. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    If he is not too big, there might have been a cushion under the head, on the neck for sewing needles.
    greg
     
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  19. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    As Bakersgma suggests, Neresheimer of Hanau pseudo-marks, with British import marks of Berthold Muller partially obscured by a repair. Size isn't mentioned, but have seen similar figural pieces with a small thread and thimble holder attached to the removable head...

    ~Cheryl
     
  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Cheryl, could I point you at the bracelet thread on the Jools board please? Ta.

    And yes, never a Scots mark, that. For that age, would have been a Thistle as the standard mark if it were Edinburgh, plus the castles and a date letter. The lion was the Glasgow standard mark after 1819, so if anything were missing it would have been the tree thingy for a Glasgow mark.

    What's obscured is a town mark and date letter.
     
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