straits Chinese nonya peranakan

Any body got a link of real and fakes
straits Chinese nonya peranakan.

Many thanks to all

 

Post photos in appropriate forum section,there are a few members here with knowledge.

 

China by Jose Deleon posted Jun 22, 2020 at 11:24 PM

I have more but I can't upload it grrrrrr

 

Pictures need to be sized to 600x800.

 

Did you have a look here? Don't know if anything will lead you to the info you are looking for.
http://gotheborg.com/
http://www.gotheborg.com/glossary/camcheng.shtml

 

Yes I saw those I would like to find how a fake one look like.. yeah the photos always gives me a issue

 

Are you using your phone for photos?
If so email them to yourself as medium, save and post from there.

 

China by Jose Deleon posted Jun 23, 2020 at 2:33 AM

China by Jose Deleon posted Jun 23, 2020 at 2:33 AM

No room lol in site

5 by Jose Deleon posted Apr 17, 2020 at 11:14 PM

 

Jose, the ones you posted look like the real deal to me.
The general rule for Peranakan festive ware is, not too perfect and no pristine new colours.
The colours on yours are slightly faded, which is the way they should look on old pieces. Also, both the colour application and the designs are not perfect, also a good sign.
I hope that helps.

 

not sure if you have seen these ....
"But the one thing that cannot be reproduced is the weight. A piece that is 100 years old is much lighter than the ones made today, due to dehydration." from https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cover-story-investing-peranakan-ceramics
"Fake Nyonyaware: (Left) A miniature indigo-blue kamcheng that has been re-painted and re-fired in China. (Right) The original white kamcheng before the faking process." from http://realty-united.blogspot.com/2007/10/tips-on-collecting-nyonyaware.html
but the images seem to be missing in the writeup

straits chinese nyonyaware are mostly family heirlooms, hence the rarity. because they were actually used in the household, many are not in perfect condition unless they were from very wealthy families.
this little teapot was used by my great grandmother to serve tea for the "gods" at our family's alter table.

 

That was a neat article so from my understanding if they are extremely heavy or seal mark has to be fake the ones I owe no doubt they're real but the soup bowls feel kind of heavy the leaf lotus ultra bowls kind of light. Reproduction came from jendi sorry can't spell that but that still makes it old best place that makes porcelain still 19 century. I bought a lot of them I can't get my hands on the vase or the jars the too damn expensive

 

Yeah they're real I just wanted to see in comparison to a real and fake one

 

Hello,Jose
Here is mine that victory and Albert confirm to be from 1st half of 19th century,you can compare stiles to these. John

 

Those are very pretty jars, I bet they're expensive. Yes the color of yours is great detail.. here's mine

China by Jose Deleon posted Jun 23, 2020 at 4:14 PM

 

These are the only one out there that not in a museum, they are pickling jars here a picture from the estate I got theses from John https://josephminton.com/documents/press/interior_design_june_1981.pdf

 

You definitely got lucky there hold on to them because they'll be a great cash cow in the future. I want the vase on ebay sooooo bad but is to much for me. This vase is real pretty

 

Yes that’s is a very nice looking vase. Yes I got lucky on these, the lady I bought these from is 94 she said they have always
been in her husband office that all she knew about them John

 

I'm not sure if this would help. Start navigating from this post: https://bbddduck.wixsite.com/website/post/the-4-letter-f-word . A longer and more comprehensive article is being drafted. My Facebook also attempts to warn others against fakes. The links are in my profile here. I cannot post the fakes of others or comment about them of course, but if you're perceptive enough, you will learn to spot red flags and other mistakes which will help you to identify fakes. Hope I've been of help. Good luck. Just one last thing: the fakes are getting better and better and some of the new fakes, while I know they are fakes, I cannot explain why with any accuracy without referring to the actual pieces themselves. Perhaps a closed group can be started where we can confidentially post anything from anyone, just for discussion's sake, but there must be legal clauses to prevent us getting into any trouble, especially with regards to defamation. Some collectors with fakes and their supporters will have to be banned, for a few do and are adamant theirs is the real McCoy

 

I think these are much newer and not considered Straits Chinese, so not fakes per se

 

The dehydration hypothesis is not true as all moisture would have been dispelled with the firing. I don't think porcelain loses moisture over time