royal derby/Imari. Vent hole going through mark. Is this a factory reject?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by sunday silence, May 20, 2020.

  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

  2. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    NOTE: also there's an X scratched through the mark. Is this a concern?
     
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  3. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Your pictures are GREAT and it's a LOVELY Pitcher, but I can't help with your questions!!
     
  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    If your pics aren't distorted, it looks like it warped in the final gilt firing, so maybe it is a second/reject.
    Usually the factories don't bother gilding the seconds so you'll see lots of pieces with "missing" sections. In this case though it looks finished, so I'm guessing this piece warped during the last process.
     
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  5. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    Blooey which part is warped? I may be able to get another pic if you tel where to look. It seems to me that the "X" is a dead giveaway that something went wrong. Thanks for adding to the evidence...
     
  6. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Yes, I believe the cross indicates a reject.
     
  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I'd say "sagged" rather than "warped" - looks a tad off-kilter.

    And agree that the mark is cancelled. Pretty extreme, rendering the piece unusable.
     
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  8. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    It looks like it's leaning. I think that's what they mean by off-kilter. Stand it next to something vertical.
     
  9. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

  10. Chandler In Las Vegas

    Chandler In Las Vegas Active Member

    I used to work for Royal Doulton in an outlet mall. On many occasions we received 1st run overstock with instructions to strike the items. The RD strike was a slight grind to the crown dot with a pointed Dremel tool. They had to justify the markdown. I of course employee-bought what I wanted before I struck the unfortunate items. Manufacturer strikes, like RCD, can be be brutal but I tend to ignore them. If the piece is misfired and off shape, I give it a pass. However, in this case, as with decoration flaws, a piece of china that is used only a few times, usually has enough wear to qualify as a second if it were unused. I would buy this ewer without hesitation. Put an inventory/owner sticker over it. If you are the kind of person who has friends over for dinner and they flip your china, get rid of the friend and not the china.

    My 2c.
     
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  11. smallaxe

    smallaxe Well-Known Member

  12. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Yes. Picture #4 shows the neck out of vertical and leaning over toward the handle. If that is the case, It would be a reject.
     
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