Dutch portrait

Discussion in 'Art' started by SSlava, May 5, 2020.

  1. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    But didn’t they paint many similar portraits in the 17th century? The similarity is very distant. So you can compare portraits of completely different people)). And to conclude that these are copies of the same portrait))
     
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  2. smallaxe

    smallaxe Well-Known Member

    To me, it looks like they both have a pencil mustache, and a bit of hair below their lip.
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    My personal opinion is that Rembrandt's self-portrait is very likely the inspiration for your painting. As it's unsigned, I doubt there is very much more you will be able to learn about it.

    Debora
     
  4. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    I do not know)). It's hard to say if there is a mustache or not. But the clothes and hairstyle are exactly different. But the angle of the depicted is similar. But perhaps this is a typical portrait of that era in typical clothing? I do not see a total resemblance. Hard question.

    We must look for similar portraits of that era.

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  5. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Agree 19th century copy of another painting. The artist must not of wanted to know who they were as there is no signature. No signature will be tough to find out who painted it. Plus needs cleaning. Enjoy it as is.
     
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  6. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    And which picture? Rembrent’s picture is not very similar. And why did they copy old portraits in the 19th century?
     
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  7. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    maybe the 19th century, I don’t know. But often, when such paintings are submitted for examination, they turn out to be originals of the 17th century. But in this case, the examination often costs more than the portrait itself. Even the original of the 17th century is hard to sell for more than 500-800 dollars of such a plan)).


    And without examination, such paintings cost us $ 30-70)).


    And the signature could be erased by the way.
     
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  8. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Although, perhaps Rembrandt is actually depicted here? You think this is a copy of some kind of auto port? Here is an example of the original Rembrent.

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  9. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member


    In the middle - here is Rembrandt's original self-portrait.

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  11. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    By the way, I did not find the exact same self-portrait, but there are similar ones (but the face is a bit from a different angle). If you compare with the original small self-portraits, is the painting not so bad?

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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Nineteenth century painting students often copied masters of earlier periods as a way of developing their technique. All but one of these is 19th century; some are on canvas & some are on board. One is by Guido Reni. Thumbnails for space.

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  13. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Thanks, thanks. But here - this is not a copy of any specific portrait of Rembrandt? I found something in common among several self-portraits of him)). The style is similar by the way, a portrait is painted in his style (if compared with his small portraits).
     
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  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    There's always the possibility that it was an attempt at forgery.
     
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  15. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    I read that Rembrandt’s paintings and fakes began to be made from the beginning of the 18th century? Therefore, a portrait may well be a copy or a fake for it of the 18-19 centuries. But in any case, the portrait is of interest)). I think it was not in vain that I bought it for $ 35))
     
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  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    One of the paintings in the gallery above is mine. I paid a heck of a lot more than $35 for it, so I think you got something of interest for a modest price.
     
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  17. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    What about this, what do you think? By the way, again, this is not a copy of this particular portrait, just similar. But this portrait seems more similar than the previous one was found here? By the way, my portret has a face under a darkish varnish. If you clean the picture, the face should look a little lighter. 1.jpg
     
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  20. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    It seems to me that you keep insisting that your painting is not a copy of Rembrandt's self portrait (correct me if I'm mistaken please), when it seems quite obvious to my eye that it is.
     
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