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Discussion in 'Books' started by coffeyce, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. coffeyce

    coffeyce Active Member

    In the past 10 years i had collected a various amount of things, glass other antiques ect.

    In 2001 i started coins and it took over the other.

    3 years ago i was buying a Spain 1782 Gold 1/2 Escudo at an auction it was beat up but the price i bid was below melt value. No one else bid and i won. The auctioner failed to mention it also came with an old Spanish Royal document.

    I thought it was very cool. I put it in mylar protector and put it in my closet until about a year ago and decided to do some research on it. It was in very pristine condition for being from 1784, from King Charles 3rd. I determined it was a decree nominating Don Gregorio, the Marquis of Vallesantoro in to the Order of Santiago.

    This is that document:
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    I love the water seals stamps and dry seals of these old documents. I believe people took more pride in the older times.

    This document lead me to buy about 150 others of the same type some with very significant historical value, which i will share in other threads.

    Thanks for reading

    Chris
     
  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    That is amazing! Thank you for sharing.
     
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  3. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Wow!
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Very cool. I tend to collect ...dust... Lots of other things too, but lots of dust.
     
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  5. coffeyce

    coffeyce Active Member

    Yes I seemed to amass a collection of dust and worthless other things as well.
     
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  6. coffeyce

    coffeyce Active Member

    I would like to add one thing Im trying to do with these documents is a CDV Photo, Coin and other memorabilia from that year or person with the document to accent the collection. Some of these can be hard to obtain based on availability and rarity.

    These are some examples.
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  7. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I have Lily Munster in to take care of my dusting.
     
  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I grow dust.
    Starts as a thin layer, dog hair and cat fur is used as a mulch which aids in a higher volume of growth.;)
     
  9. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    ew
     
  10. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    We live on Windy Ridge.......Nuff said.....Dust goes with it!!!!!
     
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  11. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Nice idea! Who are the people in the photos?
     
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  12. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Our 1870 house has horsehair plaster walls. It weeps dust on a daily basis.
     
  13. coffeyce

    coffeyce Active Member

    That would be King Amadeo 1st and his wife. They ascended to the Spanish throne 1870-1873. He was Italian not Spanish so as you can imagine he wasnt well recieved even though he had great intentions for Spain. These are the documents i got the CDV’s for. These are his Ascension decrees from the Captain General (Governor) of Cuba.
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  14. coffeyce

    coffeyce Active Member

    I would have to say out of the 150 i own only these i would consider significant

    1. 1743 Phillip 5th hand written document to the Bishop of Santa Domingo (Mexico) concerning obtaining funds for the Holy Bula of the Saint Crusade. Complete with a wax seal of Phillip 5th. Complete with translation.

    2. 1788 Spanish Holy Inquisition hand written document concerning appointing a priest as a member of the inquisition. Back of document contains a hand written confirmation approval signed by the head of the inquisition. Contains the seal of the inquisition. Complete with translation.

    3. 1790 King Carlos 4th printed document allowing catholics to eat meat in saturdays during lent. Complete with translation.

    4. 1792 King Carlos 4th printed document concerning the beatification of Juan De Palafox y Mendoza. Who was given sainthood in 2011. Complete with translation.

    5. 1794 King Carlos 4th printed document concerning the birth of his youngest son Francisco de Paula.

    6. 1809 King Ferdinand (Cadiz Cortez) document forming the Supreme Tribunal and Council of Spain and the Indies. It basically grouped all remaining government offices into 1.

    7. 1810 King Ferdinand 7th printed document disolving the junta supreme Govt and establishing the Counsel of Regency. Hand signed by the Cadiz Cortez president and others.

    8. 1811 King Ferdinand 7th printed document abolishing torture in Spain and its colonies. Hand signed by the Cadiz Cortez president and others.

    9. 1811 King Ferdinand 7th printed document establishing the 2 May holiday for the massacre in Madrid by the French. Hand signed by the Cadiz Cortez president and others.

    10. 1817 King Ferdinand 7th printed document revoking the 1811 decree and re-establishing the 2 May holiday. Hand signed by the king.

    11. 1813 Cuba Church hand written document abolishing the Inquisition in Cuba.

    12. 1814 Cuba Captain General hand written document ordering the burning of the books of Joseph Napoleon after he retreated from Spain. Signed by Apodaca.

    13. 1815 Cuba Cpt Gen hand written document for the reinstatement of Ferdinand the 7th as King.

    14. 1816 King Ferdinand 7th document announcing his and his brothers (Carlos 5th) marriage to 2 sisters. He married his 2nd wife maria isabela de fransisca. (Acid damage)

    15. 1818 King Ferdinand 7th printed document announcing the queen is past 5 months pregnant with the heir to the throne.

    16. 1819 King Ferdinand 7th printed document announcing the queen and her child died in birth in Dec 1818 and both hus parents died in Jan 1819 as well.

    17. 1817 King Ferdinand 7th printed document establishing schools for girls and women in phillipeans and the indies.

    18. 1817-1821 (10) Hand written documents from the president of the Order of Isabella the Catholic. 2 Signed by Nicholas Mahy (president of the Americas order and Cpt Gen of Cuba).

    19. 1820 King Ferdinand 7th imprint agreeing to reestablished the constitution. Complete with guide how to do it. Unsigned. 22pgs

    20. 1823 King Ferdinand 7th printed document abolishing the constitution of 1820. Complete with translation.

    21. 1820 Cuba church hand written booklet concerning books banned by the church. 4 pages, signed by bishop.

    21. 1832 king Ferdinand 7th printed document pardoning criminals for Hus daughers (Queen Isabella 2nd) 2nd birthday. Signed by Queen Maria Cristina.

    22. 1835 Cuba Captain General Circular revoking Carlos 5th`s and his decendants the right to the Spanish throne. Signed by Miguel Tacon.

    23. 1849 Queen Isabella 2nd Hand written document concerning the appointment of Jose Perez Corona as legal counsel of Spain. Complete with queens signature and wax seal. Beautiful document with pristine wax seal.

    24. 1856 Queen Isabella 2nd Hand Written personal royal invite to her sister upon the bith and baptism of her sisters daughter. Complete with original envelope and wax seal.

    25. 1857 Cuba Church and Govt hand written booklet concerning slavery with signatures stamps n seals. 11 pgs.

    26. 1858 Cuba Captain General Circular granting amnesty to all political prisoners on the occasion of the birth of the Prince of Asturias; granting them the right to take residence in all part of the Spanish territories overseas with due written permit from the territory’s Captain General.

    27. 1861 Cuba Cpt Gen hand written booklet concerning the Pregnancy of Queen Isabella 2nd.

    28. 1867 Cuba Church Booklet documrnting each parishes reciept of the abolishment of Slavery booklet. Complete with seals signatures and a copy of the slavery abolishment booklet.

    29. 1870 Cuba Cpt Gen (3) documents announcing the ascension of Amadeo 1st as king.

    30. 1871 Phillipeans imprint of criminal statistics (1870-1871) complete with outter binding paper with hand written reciept acknowledgement and signed by the phillipeans president in 1872. Has the seal of the president in top left corner.

    These would be it with a few other minor significant pieces. All Ferdinand the 7th and Isabella 2nd pieces are hand signed. About 60 documents are hand written.
     
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