Featured Milk Glass Opaline - 18th Century??

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by R. Antonis, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. i need help

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  2. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    here is the wiki article in English.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biedermeier

    besides that the meaning was always used in a pejorative meaning of describing the small bourgeois feeling of cozyness - Gemütlichkeit - without too much claim to artistic highstanding novelties and invention.
     
  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

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  4. i need help

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    I misunderstood what you were asking, Sorry, I can’t follow threads with so much writing. I’ll have a look tomorrow, I thought you wanted photos, but I just skimmed. :shame:
     
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  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    That's ok. The one I'm thinking of was an old old thread. Believe it was a cup with large floral on it. Described as ceramic, but it was actually glass.

    Found the egg one described as ceramic. No need to post that as it's not what I'm trying to describe.
     
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  6. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that clarification. The reason I asked is in relation to the fierce rivalry and competition between J. LaFarge and L.C. Tiffany, over which one had been the first to manufacture and use opalescent glass in art windows. Since it has been around for so long, I'm curious why no one thought of it sooner. Nor, for that matter, why no one before these two American pioneers thought to manipulate sheet glass to add shade, texture and dimensionality, reducing the need for obscuring enamel over-painting. My unproven theory is that both men, having made the European Grand Tour, found inspiration in the pietre dure craft they encountered, where artists utilized the natural gradations in stone to represent dimensionality. But then, I was mistakenly comparing apples and oranges, or rather I should say tableware and window glass. And I agree whole-heartedly, the discoveries of glass-making , in all it's incredible forms, effects and decoration, certainly came from repeated accidental meldings of this and that.
     
  7. I’m not sure how this factors into the mix but here’s a little tidbit of info. Sometime in the 1700’s, ear glass, that being without a pontil mark obscuring the view, was taxed. I’m not sure about decorative stained glass though? Decorative Rondels, colorless or otherwise used for sidelights and in transom window details for townhouses were for the most part pontiled, again most likely due to the issue of taxation, not to mention there was no need for a clear unobstructed view; that being the case for upper glass panes on double hung or fixed placements.
     
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  8. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    It's fascinating how the designs of our architectural and decorative arts have been modified by efforts to beat the tax man over the years. I understand this is how the "2nd Empire" (mansard) roof line came into existence, by the taxation of number of floors in your home.
     
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