Help with marks on a ring

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  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I don't know if this ring is silver, white gold or platinum.

    All acid tests are inconclusive.

    There is the tiniest mark on the inside that I cannot see with a glass or USB microscope.
    On the outside I saw these two marks with a USB, appears to be a scorpion and possible Arabic lettering.

    The copper on the edge is a trick of the light.

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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ah, found it. The ant is meant to be a 'pentatome', a shield bug. Don't have a link, I found it in Tardy. But this is the bug:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpocoris_mediterraneus

    And yes, French. As we know, the French love bugs.:pompous: At least our French member kyra does.:playful:
     
  5. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    If French what about the other mark ? Is it possibly French Algerian, Moroccan, Syrian ?
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It doesn't look like a North African or Middle Eastern mark to me, and I can't think of anything else. Looks like it has an A in it.
    It could be French, but it doesn't have the shape of a French maker's mark. I think we need @kyratango 's expert eye.

    Tried to tweak it a bit, hope that helps. Looking at it now, it doesn't look much like a pentatome, but there could be differences in punches.

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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The marks of French assay offices looked like they were written in some mysterious script, so it could be an assay office mark.
     
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  8. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Sorry, never seen these kind of marks... The ant nearly looks like a NAZCA desert line motif:facepalm: The other one seems a A and 5, but brobably not...:bucktooth:
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The one to the left of the A mark looks Korean.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ah well, back to the drawing board.:hilarious:
    Yes, much like the spider.:) I also thought it looked like a Shou symbol:

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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't know much about Korean marks. I have some Korean jewellery, and will check those for marks.
    Not seeing anything on this page that resembles it, but my eyesight isn't what it used to be:
    https://www.925-1000.com/Fkorea_01.html
     
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  12. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Yesss!! True!
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Just checked my Korean 'stuff'. It says 14k, no Korea-specific mark. I want my money back!:rage::hilarious:
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No, but I have Tardy.:) They show a bug/beetle for Portuguese white gold.
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

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    I took a photo of the beetle mark, but my computer seems to have some issue with my camera at the moment. All I can say is that it is a nice plump beetle, not a skinny ant.:playful:
     
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    We are Going Around the World! :hilarious:
     
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  18. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I used an eye glass and a loupe together and managed to see the tiny mark on the inside.
    Its another Ant.
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So it is something like this?

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  20. MaJa

    MaJa Active Member

    I think it is neither a Portuguese nor a French hallmark. The French ant hallmarks look differently and are used for imported items from countries that follow the same standards/regulations as the French (otherwise it is the owl).
     
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