Anglo Saxon Viking ?

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  1. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    I have an ancient openwork plaque wondered if could be Anglo Saxon or Viking, has anyone seen the pattern. 55694939-3921-4C41-B4C9-13815A157C2E.jpeg
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Don't even know where to start. What's it made of? What size is it? Where did you get it? What were you told about it? Why do your think it's Anglo Saxon Viking? (I assume there's an "or" in there.) Can you post a photograph of the back? Frankly, doesn't look that old. And it does look machine-made. Sure it isn't a trivet?

    Debora
     
  3. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    A trivet's what I was thinking! Can you tell us what it says around it?? AT LEAST it SURE looks like writing in the lower LEFT corner!!! Still don't have a size????
     
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Fancy manhole drain cover? (size???):smuggrin:
     
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  5. flipper

    flipper Striving to face adversity with tact and humor

    This Brubaker pony is on an Anglo Saxon Viking thing. You obviously have a vision, but you will need to share more visuals and more concrete information if you want us to "see" it with you.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    waste of time.......
    don't u guys hate fighting to get information .....:mad:
     
  7. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    Apologies you guys I know you thrive on facts just threw it out there to see if anyone recognised the pattern.Made from bronze and copper size is 5cms square .will post better photos shortly thank you for looking.
     
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  8. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    Here are some of its friends, B19E04B6-EDCB-4249-A56F-233406D1973F.jpeg 4487C170-E7F3-4F82-BFB1-D1842C7916A5.jpeg
     
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    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

  10. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    Another piece I’m trying to figure out . C82E6C6C-A2D7-4718-AAFD-B43E8D8C2D31.jpeg
     
  11. flipper

    flipper Striving to face adversity with tact and humor

    Excuse my American education, but isn't 5cm square very very small? Or is it just very small at 5cm for each side...meaning 25cm square?

    Regardless, blooey, I am pretty sure now it is not a manhole cover.
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    What material is your miniature manhole cover made of?
    It is pretty, and has some nice friends too.
    Size would be nice.;)
    They remind me of the lower part of this, an early 7th century fibula. This one happens to be Frisian (Netherlands), but they were made by other Germanic peoples as well.
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  13. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    Block answer: The first image, squarish 5 cm ea side I expect(?), appears to be a vented cover for something used on an early-era farm. Perhaps it belonged on a well, a pipe somewhere. The other wrought iron and/or bronze implements are likewise bits and pieces as used in an early farming household, hooks for hanging stuff on, spikes for holding things in place. Think stables, barns, even early kitchens where nail-like implements were used to hold roasts in place over the fire. If anyone says early weaponry they're probably right too. And, as someone already pointed out, the Anglo Saxons were not the Vikings. Different folks.
     
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  14. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    The manhole cover is 5 centimetres each side, looks like a bronze sheet with hand punched holes and the back looks like a separate piece made from copper .Looks like two pieces of metal married.
     
  15. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Well, @lizjewel, your thoughts seem to make a whole lot more sense!!!! Lovely avatar too, I'd like to add!!!:):)
     
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  16. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    Other pieces are Anglo Saxon dot pins, theres a Celtic bronze brooch there not showing clearly .Each a work of art on its own from the tiniest to the largest.
     
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  17. Brubaker50

    Brubaker50 Well-Known Member

    Something else that has me stumped if anyone can recognise what these were for Size is just over 5 cms by 2.5 cms wide , thank you all the replies and looking thank you. 45C5D3A2-2DE5-4C9D-A376-B180C9A289D8.jpeg
     
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  18. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    They are Damascene pieces,one appears the have a "bird" and key design.Hard to say which culture they belong to since Damascene has been around since the 8th century.
     
  19. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    Thank you for compliments, Brubaker! The picture just above showing three items has me thinking pendants. Are the tops looped over to allow inserting a snood, rope, chain, cord? The lower two may be what I call early ID cards. They were issued to announce to others who the wearer was, his profession, specialty skills.

    When people could not read, or even had a written language (except for the very learned as in the clergy, academia), the pendant around the neck told people who the wearer was, what he could do.

    The figure in the last one, bottom right, appears to be some kind of lizard or scorpion. Maybe the wearer was the local exterminator? [Jus' kiddin..] More likely the shaman who knew how to use animals to concoct potions. Perhaps it's a dragon? Your guess is probably better than mine.

    I can't quite make out what the center design in the top piece represents. If I were to make an off-the-wall guess, it looks to me like a stylization of the classical Irish harp. You know, the one on the Guiness bottles? Perhaps this ID tag belonged to an early local brewer... Guesses, people?
     
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  20. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    If might be helpful if you explained where these objects came from. They look like archeological finds that someone has cleaned up.
    The two rectangular items in the last pic look Chinese, based on the decoration - I believe the one on the right shows a figure of a bat.
     
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