Can anyone ID these two... plates?

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  1. Charlie8484

    Charlie8484 New Member

    These 2 were given to us by grandmother 25+ years ago. They've been on a mantelpiece ever since. However no idea what they are - thinking whether to sell them.

    Can anyone identify provenance of these (and whether they're worth anything)? Also what is the big (very big - measures just over 2ft across!) plate (plate 2) for?

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    Any help much appreciated!
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    Charlie8484, Mar 15, 2020
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  2. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Only you can establish provenance. Provenance is establishing ownership and time. Which would have been when your grandmother owned it and then passed it to you.

    Both pieces were made in England by Mintons.
    1st one looks like it says Beaucat? That would be the pattern name.
    2nd says Delft - again the pattern name.
     
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  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Oh and your second one is probably a Fish Platter.
     
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  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I think that's Beaufort, Pat. Otherwise, I agree!
     
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  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, knew it wasn't "cat" at the end. Just couldn't make it out.
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Your first plate, Beaufort, has the registration number for 1903 so it was produced sometime after that. That impressed mark might be 1921.

    The other is the Delft pattern and with the Minton crown wreath mark I think would be c1912-1950.

    http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/m/minton.html
     
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  7. Charlie8484

    Charlie8484 New Member

    Superb - thanks all. And for correcting my poor English - clearly need to revisit the word “provenance”...
     
    Charlie8484, Mar 16, 2020
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