Enamel minature dated anno 1704 signed BL.

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  1. Eddiegoodall

    Eddiegoodall New Member

    Looking for help identifying if this is a genuine minature from that period or a reproduction. I appreciate any information at all.
    Thank you very much!
     

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  2. flipper

    flipper Striving to face adversity with tact and humor

  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    From the quality of its execution, certainly appears to be a reproduction. If you haven't done so already, I suggest you do a Google Images search for a genuine piece by B.L. and compare.

    Debora
     
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  4. Northern Lights Lodge

    Northern Lights Lodge Well-Known Member

    Interesting piece...
    Leslie
     
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    flipper Striving to face adversity with tact and humor

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  6. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I believe that big hair style (achieved with wigs) comes in later in the 18th century. Earlier styles were a bit more subdued.
    18th c hairstyles early (487x640).jpg

    [​IMG]Portrait of Lady in Blue, Thomas Gainsborough, 1775

    [​IMG]Unknown Lady, John Smibert, 1781
     
  7. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

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  9. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    The writing on the back looks like permanent marker to me?
     
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  10. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    title should be "cross eyed lady of the lowlands"
     
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  11. flipper

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  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here is a genuine Bernard Lens miniature from the collection of the V&A for comparison. There is none.

    Debora

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  13. Eddiegoodall

    Eddiegoodall New Member

    Thank you very much i did look at bernerd lens and didn't think it was right it just doesn't have the same quality but is it a possibility that is os a genuine piece by a different maker or done in his very early years when he was learning.....or am i being too optimistic ha ha.
    Thanks you
     
  14. Eddiegoodall

    Eddiegoodall New Member

    Looking closely i would say the date and initials are painted on but i could be wrong.
     

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  15. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    I don't think you can use that as a definite way to compare if it is a Lens. He didn't start painting until 1704, the year the enamel pin is dated. If you Google his portraits and look at the dates, his style and ability changed a lot as time went on and you would never know some of his portraits were done by him side by side.
     
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  16. Mill Cove Treasures

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  17. Eddiegoodall

    Eddiegoodall New Member

    No I know that and what I should have done is not put anything about bernerd lens and just asked if anyone knows the maker...someone else said it could be his but i have looked at a lot of his work and this one does not look right at all. Thanks for the comments
     
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  18. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Then there's always the fact that her hair style and clothing are Late Georgian, a good 50 years after the miniature is dated.
     
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  19. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Were you answering me about whether it was magic marker on the back? That definitely doesn't look like paint to me. You can try a solvent for magic marker which won't affect 300 year old dried enamel paint.
     
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  20. Eddiegoodall

    Eddiegoodall New Member

    I wouldnt say its permanent marker. Here is a close up
     

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