What is the Holy Grail of Antiquers?

Talk about a holy grail: Peace on Earth, goodwill to men. (sigh)

 

Thought we were discussing true possibilities. My Holy Grails aren’t quite antique and they’re art:

An original Henry Darger and/or Martin Ramirez. Going for jewelry and newer, a Charles Loloma landscape bracelet that fits me perfectly.

 

Now you're talking!

 

If you do find one get a magnet and see if it sticks. If it does then it is a just a copper coated steel penny.

 

ya, I'd wear Loloma in a heartbeat !!

 

I have, but only for a show. It was amazing though. It was also amazing being able to handle every piece of jewellery he had brought over to Europe, so much beauty made by such a talented artist.

 

& nothing ended up in your pocket ???
yer a saint !!

 

I almost gave in a few years ago. Tiny gold pair of coral inlay studs for IMO a crazy amount of money. Only justifiable IMO for someone who can totally say that owning a piece of Loloma is enough, regardless of the piece. I’m close but not quite there. The deal breaker was a tiny chip in the coral and an honest response to my husband’s question of whether I’d have any interest in them if they weren’t CL to which I answered “no”.

 

This is also what I want,

http://numismatics.org/pocketchange/the-worlds-oldest-surviving-paper-money/

 

Me too. Or an nice chunk of unsigned pre-War Navajo work. Moghul enamel necklaces.... Anything big and chunky or totally gaudy. That cost silly money even new.

 

I have my saintly moments.

He made a lot of those tiny studs, just for that reason. Do you remember those studs with just his signature? I mean, really!

 

They were beautifully done-under a loupe lol. That’s how I found the chip! I can’t believe I almost bought them. Glad I didn’t but he’s still my jewelry Holy Grail and I have owned a small piece of Faberge. I found it a new home in the 80s. It was a small pink enameled belt buckle. Pristine and I knew I’d chip it if I wore it. Even then it was a good investment but can’t imagine what it would be worth today.

 

Just an FYI, it's not common for peasants of any period to have an archeological trail of their existence. This is true for Jesus. Egyptians and Romans of this time were extremely wealthy and this is the reason why you see artifacts and "physical evidence" from them. We have a written account of Jesus' time on earth with the Bible. If you choose to discount the Bible for whatever reason, other non-biblical Roman text from authors such as Flavius and Tactius give an account of Jesus' existence.

I understand your point regarding the Shroud of Turin and other Catholic "artifacts" that have been discovered to be manufactured. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the Catholic Church has been known to push its own agenda ahead of the teachings and word of Jesus. Christians aren't perfect and the Catholic Church and their many shortcomings should not be your impression of Jesus. He came to redeem us because we are flawed.

Anyway, our salvation is by Grace through FAITH and physical evidence isn't necessary. I also understand this is difficult for intellectual and evidentiary thinkers (I am one) but that's the way it is. God loves you.

 

It was in fact a medieval legend, at least as it now stands. The original was a lump of low-fired pottery, and odds are it didn't survive more than a year after the Last Supper. ( for those of us who believe that actually happened.) Peasant stuff doesn't generally survive, except for those danged oil lamps. Even poor folks had like 15 in the house and those are all over the place.

 

Religion and politics are two topics that escalate quickly, regardless of the original forum topic. I've learned to avoid them. You can beat a dead horse, but you can't make it drink.

 

Meh, most of the Bible was written centuries after, anyhow. And don't get me started on dodgy translations.

Back to treasures: I'll take Schiaparelli jewellery. And nigh on anything from the Cairo Museum.

 

What book of the Bible was written anonymously? The Gospels are specifically first hand, eye witness accounts of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection. Not to mention the authors all died horrible deaths for taking the position it was true. Awful bold stance if the author didn’t really believe it to be true.