Hungarian bracelet —1920s?

Found this antique (I think) Hungarian bracelet with the emeralds and pearls. Anybody?

 

Thx I will

 

It has a Pz 835 stamps

 

that's nice...how about a clear pic of the stones..?

 

@komokwa - artist's easel on the left and 835 (?) on the right.

 

Or else it's a puppy on the left!

 

@antidiem you are a genius, it is a dog, dog head was 1867-1922 silver

 

close enuf !!!

 

Love the clasp, very Hungarian.

Uhmm. This is your mark:


This is the Hungarian dog mark, for 800, not 835:


It isn't a Diana mark either.
Maybe @DragonflyWink knows the mark.

 

Eh, my eyesight isn't what it used to be, and that mark changes every time I see it, though I believe I can see '835' in the other one - better pics would be helpful. The 20th standards in Hungary were .925, .900, and .800 until 1965, when .835 fineness was added - the standard mark on a small piece like this should be a catfish (sheatfish) with a '3' for .835 third standard, but since it has the '835' stamp, the other mark may belong to a maker...

~Cheryl


http://hallmarkwiki.com/?key=&country=Hungary

 

@Estaterestate , please show us better photos of the marks.

 

It’s a pv

 

Thanks, is it a PV in an oval? Looks accidentally double-struck, no wonder so hard to see, and so tiny! Please give our jewelry mavens time over the holidays. I didn't think it was a puppy, the double strike(?) confused me.

 

ya....maybe...but puppy was a good call from what you could see !!

 

Maker's mark. I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Hungarian maker's marks.

And it has a P for Puppy.

 

Bit surprised at how many jewelry pieces bearing the 'PV' mark are described on English language sites, including by someone I respect, as '19th century Austro-Hungarian' despite the marks clearly indicating otherwise. Since those searches were pretty much useless, had to dig around on Hungarian sites, bit difficult given my limited language skills.

'PV' appears to be a mark for 'Pénzverő' (State Mint), apparently put in use after WWII, and used on several types of production, the mark occasionally described as a maker's mark. I found it on both gold and silver jewelry items, silver holloware, and even one alpakka piece, they sometimes had the fineness indicated numerically as on this bracelet, others bore either the 1937-65 or the 1965/66+ quality marks (and again, .835 fineness would indicate '65 or later).


This gilt sterling set is from a 2016 Hungarian auction catalog, the google translation stating "circa 1970":





This item is from a 2013 Hungarian auction catalog with 15 different holloware pieces marked 'PV' - 6 in .800 silver bearing 1937-65 quality marks, 1 piece in .925 silver bearing a 1966-99 quality mark, and 8 pieces in .835 silver bearing 1966-99 quality marks:






Please forgive this lengthy google translation from a 2012 Hungarian legal .document, more useful bits highlighted:

"As a full legal successor of the State Mint, Metal-Art Zrt
and are exclusively entitled to use the proprietary PV brand mark used to make the products as well as the use of the VAT mark on precious metals,
supplemented by an indication of the actual material and fineness of the precious metal. Both marks, in accordance with the precious metal certification provisions, a allow for the regular marketing of awards, they provide a guarantee of their precious metal content because the honors are strict are produced as a number one product, each award, a operations, can be monitored, quantified and verified
qualitatively. In view of the compulsory monitoring of awards, it is extremely important the identity of the manufacturer is important for legal continuity.

In his view, the above confirms that design and execution
in this case, inseparable activities and necessary Expertise and equipment are at the sole disposal of Metal-Art Zrt. This also justifies the peculiar situation that, although honors for the production of it. The tools already made by the bidder Metal-Art Zrt They are owned by the Office of the President, but in the "clichés" Metal-Art Zrt. and the cliches / tools themselves are the responsibility of the tenderer they have been in custody since they were completed."

"The Contracting Authority stated that Metal-Art Zrt Apply and apply in the manner regulated by the Certification Act manufacturer's mark {PV} and mint mark, in this case [GTC] 925]. These identification marks give an authentic guarantee to the manufacturer and the precious metal for objects is required by the Precious Metal Certification Act with or without the hallmark providing an equivalent mark to the objects.
Beyond the above, special is unique circumstance that Metal-Art Zrt to mark metal objects without separate certification, subject to the predecessor of the company and its historical background. Other, other area for service providers dealing with precious metals, the use of the hallmark a precious metal is subject to a special procedure only.

The contracting authority stated that in the late 1940s and 1950s, a major change has been made to the abolition of the private industry and the State Attached to a mint-based precious metals base. for this as a result, all the precious metals making professions have merged with the public sector representative. From here it can be calculated that the scope of activity expanded to goldsmith, goldsmith-jeweler, silvermith-maker, engraver, holder, chicory and other manufactures and the manufacture of these products. The traffic besides the production of coins and commemorative coins, state awards have increased in volume. The era is outstanding, it was manufactured Achievements:
- Order of Merit and Medal of the Republic of Hungary 1946.
- Kossuth Prize 1948.
- Order of Merit and Medal of the Hungarian People 's Republic 1949.
- Order of the Socialist for Hungary, 1976.
- Star Order 1984.

After the system change, during the privatization period, the traffic The production of metal coins (issues) was the responsibility of the National Bank of Hungary, all
another profile, new Metal-Art in its name but unchanged in its activity Nemesfémipari Rt. And Zrt. Continued as a general successor and is still going on today. In support of this, Metal-Art Zrt. Company Statement and Extract of the Articles of Association.
He submitted it to the Hungarian Mint as a potential competitor
of the Framework Agreement currently in force
preventive - also contracted with Metal-Art Zrt.

In the course of its establishment, the Contracting Authority also requested the Magyar Pénzverı Zrt in the design and production of state awards, but the Hungarian In its reply, Money Money Co. indicated that it did not intend to and would not continue this kind of activity. 12 The contracting authority explained that it is a strict requirement for state awards, to prevent unauthorized access to them, counterfeiting, illegal copying cost.



That's all I've got, did have a few other examples, but there was a security update while I slept and all my open windows were closed - not gonna hunt them up again...

~Cheryl