need help on - possibly Asian old porcelain piece

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by 2fat2slow, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    I think it is totally inacceptable to call members of this forum that offer their experience and opinions for free "trolls", just because they do not have the same opinion as you have!
    For all who are really interested in learning more, I show here two nearly identical examples that were made by "De porceleyne Schotel", an 18th c workshop from Delft: http://risdmuseum.org/art_design/objects/5289_tea_caddy ; https://www.auktionshaus-stahl.de/katalog-archiv.php?detail=65130&katalog=16 . As there are some differences in quality and colour, and the mark on the piece that is discussed here is not that of "De porceleyne Schotel" ( see here: http://www.delftsaardewerk.nl/keys/view/ivduijn/1 ), I would think that it is a likely later copy of that model.
    Mat
     
  2. 2fat2slow

    2fat2slow Member

    This is what i am talking about - facts, sadly there is no mark visible and there my piece made out of porcelain..but good one, respect. Thank you
     
  3. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but I am afraid you will not find the answers to your "questions" here. I have nothing elso to add to this thread too.
     
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  4. 2fat2slow

    2fat2slow Member

    Thank you, to above person which went silence - this is what real PRO does, put's facts on a table. Thank you MAT, really great job, o you 1.
     
  5. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Eh, though it seems to be ignored by you, looks like Janetjohn has given a bit of a lead on the mark with her link to a Dutch site, though still an 'unknown', it's noted as appearing on faience. You apparently have a different opinion on this piece, which you don't really wish to make clear at this time, but after your dismissive and now rather unpleasant responses, suspect few would even care at this point...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  6. 2fat2slow

    2fat2slow Member

    i can not call this dismissive;

    "Thank you, to above person which went silence - this is what real PRO does, put's facts on a table. Thank you MAT, really great job, o you 1."
     
  7. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Wow. We're all friendly on this board and when you ask, people tell you what they think. There's no need to be rude and insulting. If all you are looking for is someone to agree with you, why post the question? I've been collecting pottery and porcelain for decades. I've never seen a Japanese or Chinese mark with English alphabet. The construction of the piece looks, in my experience, Continental. You don't have to agree with me, but that is what you asked and that's my answer. I'm not sure what you meant by "point a finger." I looked at your image and that's what I see.
     
  8. 2fat2slow

    2fat2slow Member

    Everyone - please accept my apologies if i made someone feel not very good. I never had any intentions to insult anyone. Apologies, one more time.
    *You are treading on thin ice.*
     
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  9. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I am not sure that others will consider your apology sincere. You may have trouble with other "discussions". I do not care how many "tests" that you paid for. The item is NOT porcelain or even Asian. There are very many experts on this board that offer their ideas for FREE. If you had to pay for the item to be appraised you would consider the time spent here as fruitful. Your comments did not come across the board as much as your hostility. A great many people here were berated by a troll on the old boards thus the new board was started.
    greg
     
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  10. 2fat2slow

    2fat2slow Member

    Yeah,yeah...i have original chinese piece which been copied by dutch delft - end of the story. have a great day everyone.
    *If you keep this up you won`t be posting here again*
     
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  11. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

    No soup for you.
     
  12. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I'm confused. In your original post you said this:

    "No one who i met in person regarding this piece- no one could tell anything to me - just pure guesses with no real facts.
    I would very grateful if someone could help me on this one - or to refer me to book or somewhere else who possibly could know "what is it".

    No one could tell you what it was and you would be grateful if someone could help. When we tried to help, you are sarcastic and insistent that you do know what it is and we are all wrong. Huh? Either you didn't know and you accept suggestions or you think you do know and you don't need any help. Which is it?

    The real expert on Asian pottery and ceramic marks is Jan-Erik Nilsson from Sweden. Everyone turns to him for help. If you are so certain it's Asian, research his website. You can even contact him for information.
    http://www.gotheborg.com/index.htm
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I commend everyone who circled their wagons.......;)
     
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