HELP w/AGE & MAKER OF LARGE ANTIQUE NAUTICAL PAINTING FOUND TODAY

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Oct 25, 2019.

  1. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Yeah it's something like that. You can order them from different websites. They are called burlap canvas paintings. Here is a picture of one for example. Just go on google and type in "burlap canvas paintings"
     
  2. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

  3. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    It's some type of technique done by a machine.
     
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Yes those are the Chinese fakes, very easy to spot and nothing to do with this piece.
     
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  5. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Yeah, well maybe this isn't as old as first thought and maybe it hasn't been relined and that bare canvas is the original surface ..still, it's a pretty competent painting ...YES, a painting ...not a print or reproduction and certainly not a new thing - that oxidized stretcher, if original, will take it back quite a few years.
     
  6. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    20191025_181745.jpg pure white. Not old. It is done by some machinery. Go get a second opinion but I am not changing mine.
     
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  7. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    @rink28 gives good clues. A human-made painting won't come to a perfectly straight stop, like that, plus the white...

    And if depending on seeing dots to weed out fakes, that's not foolproof, these days.

    Depending on who's explaining,
    giclée prints have either no dots or extremely fine dots that can be blurred by multiple passes.

    Not wanting to start a debate :angelic: (about giclée printing)

    I can't tell if it's the resolution, but the whiskered edges on the water spray look a bit pixelated.

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    The point is, if you keep looking you'll start to catch something mechanical about it.

    Thanks for the accent mark, @Any Jewelry :)
     
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  8. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    white = gesso undercoat/foundation
     
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  9. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Lots of humans tape their canvases, so yes, you do end up with perfectly straight edges.

    Though not usually on the front of the painting. :joyful:

    The white could easily be primer or underpainting.

    I do wonder if something new was painted over an old canvas and then a gallon of thick varnish was put on it.

    I don't know. I'm 99% certain this not a giclee, but I don't know what it is. I suspect the stretcher bars are about as original to the piece as the frame.

    My number one red flag is still the style of the painting.

    And that I'm pretty sure a straight edge was used for a goodly portion of the rigging lines.:woot:
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the crackling looks forced....
     
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  11. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Just ticking off from the features to look for in printed art.

    I know it could have been taped and people have known how to draw and paint straight lines for a while, now :artist:

    So, I'm backing away from that statement :), but not necessarily from the clue :pompous:

    Is there no magnifiing glass emoji??
     
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  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I would be interested in what a blacklight shows.

    Maybe nothing, maybe a secret map.
     
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  13. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    It's not true craquelure, just the result of a heavy gesso paint layer moving over a slack flexing canvas.
     
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  14. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Blacklight only shows repairs and few people can interpret blacklight results correctly unless the offending area is obvious.

    BTW I have done restorations that cannot be detected with blacklight:yawn:
     
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    So much for image search..... Google thinks this is visually similar.....

    Bawhahahaha!!!!!!!
     
  16. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  17. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Arrrr :jimlad:
     
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  18. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    hey at least it got the water and boat right ..the gal however ....mmmmm...
     
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  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The portrait in it is amazing.
     
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  20. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    The idea is that the acrylic surface will fluoresce white.
     
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