Set 6 European Blue Transferware ( Or Painted?) Plates

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by kardinalisimo, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Soft paste porcelain. 3 groups with three spurs marks each on the underside of the rims. Faded blue marks. Can't tell for sure if hand painted or transfer.
    Any help with country, maker, age etc....
    Thanks
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  2. Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures

    Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures Fancy Endeavours. That's my user ID on eBay now.

    These are transferware. Very pretty.

    Juli
     
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  3. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
    I am not sure what keywords to use in a search for the pattern. Is this an Asian scene? Fishermen? Are the figures Asian? Maybe their hats can give a hint.
     
  4. Armando0831

    Armando0831 Well-Known Member

    I started to carry a 16x loupe with me on my hunts. You can spot transfers very easy by noticing a dot pattern in the images. Hopefully this helps you out on spotting them because some seem legit, don't want to get burnt.
     
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  5. Armando0831

    Armando0831 Well-Known Member

    I'm not an expert but I would probably say they are from about 1980s to present. The scene appears to be Asian based. Try looking up Asian Blue and white porcelain plates.
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    (They would be earthenware not soft paste porcelain). Here is a site with an example of your plates however they don't know the maker either. I did a look through the book I have handy without seeing this pattern and if no one identifies it I'll go scrounge my other books with Staffordshire blue and white patterns tomorrow.

    http://www.blueandwhite.com/products.asp?p=19CN44637
     
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  7. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Agreed Armando, I'd even go back as far as mid-1970s too. Thanks for the information. :)
     
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  8. Armando0831

    Armando0831 Well-Known Member

    No problem, I've ran into many of these so I started to take notes. I don't go out of my way to look for some but I'll take a gander every now and then.
     
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  9. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I used to buy exactly this sort of thing when it was inexpensive. I still use my blue willow serving bowls lol. It always sold, so I'm sure there's still a good market out there for this. They are very pretty. If I were trying to make a set of these, I'd pay a good price for them.
     
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  10. Armando0831

    Armando0831 Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are lovely. I've always been fond of blue and white porcelain. I tend to stay on the Delft side.
     
  11. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I think they are considerably older. You'll notice the site I linked dates them c1820s.
     
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  12. Armando0831

    Armando0831 Well-Known Member

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  13. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Transfers were invented in the 18th C.
     
  14. Armando0831

    Armando0831 Well-Known Member

    Maybe I should of said there should be a difference in the transfer itself compared to modern transfers and ones from that time frame. Like I said, I'm not an expert on such things.
     
  15. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks a bunch for the link. How can you tell they are earthenware but not soft paste porcelain?
    As far as the age, I can tell by scratches from usage that they are 19th C.
    Transferware goes way back.
     
  16. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    The attribution of this pattern seems to be of Cambrian Pottery of Swansea, Wales.
     
  17. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Are the designs that fuzzy or is it that the close ups are simply out of focus?
     
  18. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Interesting plates.

    The pattern is described as Malayan Long house or Malayan Long hut. As mentioned above there is a tantalizing possible link to Swansea/Cambrian Pottery but the pdf file on this is incomplete...it seems to suggest that the pattern was printed on a jug which was identical to pouch jugs made by Swansea. Had a quick look at Morton Nance and Hallesley but didnt see the pattern though.

    Doubt if these are modern, the few sources (here's one) indicate early 19th century date.
     
  19. mhc4444

    mhc4444 Active Member

    i agree that these are old, blue and white transfer print have been 'outdated' so to speak, im not sure what they are doing now to print a pattern onto porcelain and stoneware, but they definately do it better, so to say, than the transferprint. and that is noticeable to see a difference between a made in china piece from the 80's to a transferprintet piece from 1890's
     
  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Early to mid 19th C and I'd have thought Staffordshire made, but hey.
     
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