Help w/ID Hammered Metal Cups Marked Denmark

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Jim Goodykoontz, Jan 11, 2025 at 8:26 PM.

  1. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    hi everyone. i found these yesterday and have not been able to find this mark anywhere online. I'm really not sure what the metal composition of these cups is. they don't really look like silver, but they don't look like pewter either. they stand just under 3 inches in height. none of the cups have a very strong, easily read stamp on the base. i've provided the best pictures i can of the art. i think if you look at all three images of the marks you can get a pretty good sense of it. i would really like to figure out who made them and possibly when. any help will be greatly appreciated...thanks denmark_1.jpg
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  2. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    i was searching google using some other language and i found this:


    • A hallmark with three birds on a branch in Denmark is a vintage 830 silver pin.Here's some information about Danish silver hallmarks:
      • Three Tower Mark:This mark was the official city mark of Copenhagen starting in 1608. It became the national mark for Denmark in 1893. The mark guaranteed a minimum silver purity of 826/1000.The design of the mark changed slightly each year, and the numbers below the mark indicated the year.
    • 830S or 925S imprint:After 1961, Danish silver was identified by an 830S or 925S imprint.A mark with two towers indicates silverplate.
    • Swedish year markings:Swedish year markings can help date a particular item.
    • Designer initials:Designer initials can help date a particular item.
    it had occurred to me these might be 830 silver, because it doesn't look like sterling, but it still doesn't explain who made these. i'm still hoping someone out there knows something.
     
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  3. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member


    Hmmm - that first sentence is just odd, was it some sort of AI response? With those dark spots and pits, they look to me like pewter with some soldered repairs, but you have them in hand. They are not Danish .830 silver, if so there would be a numeric fineness and/or a 3-tower mark present.

    For what it's worth, I played with one of your pics - looks me like three birds on a turret, branches, and maybe an 'LL' and cross below. Checked my pewter references and found no match, would guess mid 20th century...

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    ~Cheryl
     
  4. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    hi, yes, it was an AI response. those pictures are very bad because they were taken with my phone camera and the lighting wasn't great. there really isn't any "pitting" visible when you look at any of them with magnification under good light. also they're not dark. they're the same color as the outsides as photographed.
     
  5. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member


    Sorry, I'm confused by what you're saying, but your pictures show numerous spots of dark oxidation and small even darker spots that appear to be pits, both typical of pewter damage related to moisture - as said, you have them in hand, but I'm having a hard time understanding how they can be "the same color as the outsides as photographed". Will note that I've collected Scandinavian silver and pewter for close to half a century - to my eye, your pieces look to be pewter and they're not silver. Hopefully someone else will be along to try and help you find your answers...

    ~Cheryl
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025 at 7:55 PM
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  6. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    again, they're bad photos. if i try to sell these i will definitely get better pictures.
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I am confused. Are you saying those spots in the photo below, that look like pitting, aren't there in real life?

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  8. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    they're nowhere near as visible or noticeable when you look at the bases with your eyes in good light. obviously they're there, though. also, to my eye when looking at these cups they look more like silver than pewter, but who knows. possibly silver plate. what i would really like to find out is who made them. and apparently that's going to be impossible.
     
  9. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    dont see the 3 towers but i see at least 2 birds. am i the only one who sees the birds?
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No, you're not the only one.;)
    (Je ziet ze niet vliegen.:playful:)
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    3 birds , actually..
     
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  12. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    It looks alike a geraldine with 3 birds above a 3 petal cross or perhaps a 4 petal clover
     
  13. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    it looks like there's 3 birds as well as 3 bases underneath them. then there's another element that sort of swoops out in front of them and probably behind them. when i bought these i thought i'd find this mark, no problem. it's a very ornate mark.
     
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  14. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    Its some kind of arm of coat/geraldine/shild. Top part is visible in the first pic and the bottom part on secod and thirt.pic you posted

    Idonno why but i cant find the encirkled denmark mark. denmark_1.jpg denmark_3.jpg
     
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